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Matt Schaub a Texan???

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Nashvegas, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. Icehouse

    Icehouse Member

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    Wow...the Texans are idiots if that is true. How can one support a team that makes so many dumb decisions? You drop back in the draft and give up two 2nd round picks for a back-up QB?

    Since Carr is on his way out now, can we FINALLY admit that not taking Vince #1 last year was a mistake? We just gave up two #2s!!!!
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    this deal IS great for Atlanta right now, if Shaub is a player it will be good for the texans. when you look at it from their perspective, getting two second rounders for a backup like an above poster mentioned, that's awesome. especially when we are hoping for a third for our starter.
     
  3. rhester

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    Thanks, I needed that. :)

    Leon Hall would be sweet
    Maybe they like Reggie Nelson
    Okoye wouldn't hurt my feelings

    I think they just said what I have felt along time about Carr.

    The price was high, especially when you factor in the screw up of last year's #1 pick.

    If we can hit the first round pick and the third round and get something of value for Carr- whoo hoo
     
  4. rhester

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    Yep, that is Texan trade management in a nutshell

    we give up 2 - 2nd's for a back up and can't get a 3rd for our starter :D
     
  5. xiki

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    Is this factual or your surmisal?
     
  6. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    You've made it clear you don't support them anyway. Why you and people like Baqui99 continue to post in Texans forums is the real mystery.

    Schaub has been considered one of the best back-ups in the league and could've started on a number of teams. We just used our 39th pick on a non-rookie starting QB. It frees up the first rounder to use on other needs like DB, OL, DL or possibly WR.

    I'm not about to get my panties in a wad over a 2008 pick that's still 13 months from being selected.
     
  7. kaleidosky

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    Schaub isn't your typical backup QB. He's been stuck behind the hype that is Vick. The Falcons seriously considered giving Schaub a shot at the job this past year... they were *supposedly* entertaining trade talks about Vick for a short time because they thought Schaub could take over the team, and they talked about using Schaub at QB and Vick at RB/WR/etc (but that was eventually shot down due to the hurt it would put on Vick).

    But let's not all keep saying we traded for a backup like this is Cody Carlson or something.. I'm hoping for a Matt Hasselbeck type of backup
     
  8. MadMax

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    that's exactly right. this is not "just a backup." steve young was not "just a backup." i'm not saying we're looking at the next steve young...i'm saying that it's incomplete and unfair to give schaub that label and just dismiss him. he's been impressive when given the opportunity to play...and gave Vick-doubters a ton of ammunition when he had a tremendous game he started two years back (throwing for 300 yards+ and around 3 TD's, iirc)
     
  9. Icehouse

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    We have too many needs on our team to give up so many picks for a back-up QB. Hasn't mgmt's stance all summer been "we are trying to acquire more picks, not give them away"?

    I could see if we were a QB away from being a playoff caliber club or something....
     
  10. MadMax

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    they just addressed the most important position on the field. and in doing so, they'll trade away Carr for another draft pick.
     
  11. rhester

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    reminds me of when Sage went in for Carr against the Titans....... :D

    But I love this move for the sake of change at the position
    Now we can think of other things..........
     
  12. studogg

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    there is just nothing you can do to please some people. This could have been Carr for Shaub straight up and icehouse would have complained that we got screwed.

    I myself am excited and also think that something is in the works for Carr which in the Texans mind will level this.

    If Shaub pans out, 2 seconds will look like a small price. I will admit, if he goes P-Burnt on us, it will hurt, but given the options in the market this seems fair.
     
  13. rikesh316

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    Great trade. Schaub has all the tool to be a star. Draft picks are no sure thing. Plus the Texans will get more picks for David Carr. He has a lot of value around the league according to Jay Glazer. They will get at least a 3rd and likely more. Teams like the Raiders, Vikings, Browns, Lions, Dolphins, Chiefs could use another QB. I really like the Texans moves this offseason. Just need to add another WR and CB. If Laron Landry is there in the 1st round pick, pick him over anybody. If Craig Davis or Steve Smith in the 3rd pick if there.
     
  14. MiniMing

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    Good move that most likely Carr will be moved.

    Bad move in terms of what we gave up for him.

    Giving up two #2's is alittle much for a backup QB.
     
  15. MadMax

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    i hear ya.

    but i think it's different. schaub started that game...he didn't inherit a prevent defense from a blowout.

    and sage has never been as highly regarded as schaub has been.
     
  16. Icehouse

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    No, then I would be pleased because Carr would be gone. I just don't see how anyone can say trading down in the draft AND giving up two #2 picks isn't a lot for a team with holes everywhere......
     
  17. solid

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    I am skeptical of every personnel move the Texans make, because they have made sooooooooooo many dumb moves, I have so little confidence in the leadership of the team, until proven otherwise. I still think Carr is going to Oakland.
     
  18. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

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    I'm sure Green Bay fans are still pissed off that they gave up their #17 overall pick for Brett Favre. I was actually ready for another year of Carr, but since Schaub is now a Texan, let's just see how it plays out.
     
  19. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    We essentially gave up one pick considering that they were most likely going to use a pick on a QB this draft. Many mock drafts had them taking a QB with the first pick.

    Dropping down two spots doesn't really mean a lot considering there are a lot of players in that range that will help a one of our needs. And like I said, I'm not going to whine about a pick that won't be picked until 13 months from now.
     
  20. franchise403

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    According to nfl network we didn't trade first round picks. The texans keep the 8th pick.
     

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