Haven't wandered through the entire thread, but in case it's not posted... I just heard on ESPN Radio that as soon as the deal was finalized Matt got the numbers and called every Texan player. Leadership. Oh, he apparently reached Carr on the golf course.
I'm going on the record as liking the move to acquire Schaub. But I think they paid twice what he's worth.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sh...olumns/entries/2007/03/23/falcons_traded.html Falcons traded the wrong QB By Furman Bisher | Friday, March 23, 2007, 11:57 PM The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Furman Bisher To get to the point, the Falcons traded the wrong quarterback. Of course, that’s an illogical conclusion. They had no alternative. How are they going to dump a $70 million load on some other NFL team? The logical conclusion is that Arthur Blank and his franchise are wed to Michael Vick, and when an athlete’s picture begins to appear more often on the front page than the sports page, it’s a marriage in trouble. Now, having said all that, you’ll note the modest little line that appears beneath the picture of that grizzled old guy accompanying this column, that what is written here is strictly my opinion. The very notion that the Falcons could have traded Vick rather than Matt Schaub is preposterous. But it was a question of hanging onto the quarterback from Wahoo U. and losing him next winter. Schaub is a commodity. He is a quarterback in the NFL tradition, drop back, find the target, deliver the pass or hand off. Run only when under defensive duress. One of the platforms in Vick’s defense is dropped passes. The Falcons traded a first-round draft choice for Peerless Price. A bummer. Then used first-round choices to draft Michael Jenkins and Roddy White, and still the passes keep falling. “You don’t see any wide receivers trying to get to Atlanta,” as beat writer Steve Wyche says. But is it all the fault of the catchers? Vick is inclined to dally about before he decides to run or to pass, while his receivers roam around, never quite sure where they should be, should he decide to pass, or what. So it would seem there’s enough blame to pass around. Look, there’s no doubt that Vick is a bundle of talent, but to this date the investment hasn’t been paying off. Among other things, he has become a public embarrassment, flipping off the fans, his Ron Mexico escapade, or whatever you call it, and now the Infamous Water Bottle Mystery. Ever strike you strange that he took 65 days to explain that thing, and that the “mystery substance” was jewelry? Did he swallow it? Did somebody heist it? He doesn’t appear to be much disturbed about it, other than to suggest that someone might have been trying to “frame” him. What next, Michael, for heaven’s sake? It has become he-said, they-said, Rich McKay said. Bobby Petrino said, or rather, it was said that the new coach “brushed it off,” whatever that meant. (Remember, it was one of Petrino’s Louisville players who was stepped on by Vick’s brother in the Gator Bowl, not that that’s either here or there. But what intrigue!) Whether Vick ever becomes the classic quarterback he was supposed to be, he’s locked in as a Falcon. There are no takers with all his baggage. What McKay did was get the most out of Schaub before he lost him on the open market. The Texans thought enough of him to put David Carr on the market, a No. 1 draft choice. A lot of fans put money into those No. 7 Vick shirts. You don’t see a lot of Schaub shirts. To suggest that Vick has become a burden rather than an asset is an irritating thought, but for the man picking up the tab for a $109 million payroll this season, this situation has “hit the wall,” as they say. Blank had no choice. Mine would have been Schaub. My opinion, as it says.
I'm putting the needle on the record, putting the needle on the record, putting the needle on the record til the drum beat goes like this...
I think some crazy offensive coordinator could have developed an offense with Schaub at QB and Vick at RB and made that team dominant offensively. How about a bunch of running plays with Vick with the pass option? Just read and react of the defense brings the blitz, just release a receiver and let Vick find them over the middle. Oh well, too late. Vick ain't ever gonna cut it as an NFL QB though.
All David Carr ever did was send his teammates Myspace bulletins, and most of those were generic surveys and chain letters.
Left you a message on your cell phone...I found one other thing I need help with, but just to the dumpster. And, to make this topic relevant, I can show you how good the Texans are in Madden after I traded for Matt Schaub (and added a little unknown RB named Blake Gifford).
Texans' Johnson: New QB Schaub 'a leader' NFL.com wire reports HOUSTON (April 3, 2007) -- Andre Johnson and Matt Schaub stood on the practice field chatting and laughing, smiles planted firmly on their faces. It didn't take long for the Houston Texans' quiet Pro Bowl receiver to warm up to his new quarterback. On the first day of Houston's voluntary offseason workouts, the two looked like old friends. "Every time we see each other we're just talking, trying to learn things about each other," Johnson said. Many of the Texans joined Johnson and Schaub at the 45-minute conditioning workout, including last year's top draft pick Mario Williams and newly acquired running back Ahman Green. Schaub came to Houston to replace David Carr in a trade March 22. Johnson thinks he's already got a feel for the former Falcons backup in a short time. "Just from looking at the way he walks around the locker room and things like that, you can tell he's a leader," Johnson said. "That's something you want to have at the quarterback position." It's one of the qualities Texans officials touted in Schaub, who has started just two games in his three-year career. He's serious about making Houston his team and has already began work on becoming a leader after signing a six-year deal worth $48 million. "I think this is the time of the year to do it," he said. "It's hard to start that once the season gets going because everything comes so quick and you've got to prepare for the games. It's ... getting to know one another on the field and asserting that leadership in the offseason rather than waiting for the season." Schaub feels lucky to be moving into his first starting role in an offense that features Johnson. "It's fantastic," he said. "It's a quarterback's dream to have a guy like that on the outside that can make people miss, go up and catch the deep ball and is fast like him. He's just a great asset to have." While Johnson, who made his second Pro Bowl last season after catching a career-high 103 passes for 1,147 yards, embraced his new quarterback, he also shared some thoughts about the old one. He said it was disappointing that Carr, who was the first pick in the 2002 draft, wasn't able to succeed in Houston and offered an opinion why. Johnson was the third overall pick in 2003. "From my first year here, I think it was the way he was coached," Johnson said. "My first couple of years here he was pretty much just told where to throw the ball at, and a lot of people didn't know that. He was never really taught to go through reads and things like that. Once coach (Gary) Kubiak came in, that was his big thing, teaching him how to go through reads. So it was like he was starting all over again." The Texans hoped Carr would blossom under the tutelage of Kubiak, a former quarterback, but he again struggled and Houston went 6-10 for its fifth losing season. http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/HOU/10106365
Texans' Johnson: New QB Schaub 'a leader' Click here to find out more! NFL.com wire reports oops, never mind. interesting though, eh?
