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Matt Schaub a Texan???

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Nashvegas, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. conquistador#11

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    I have masterminded a plan to retrieve the extra 2nd round pick that was lost in the Schaub deal! :)

    The Texans need to draft a QB with the 5th round and create the illusion of the greatest Quaterback to not start.
    They should sit him on the bench for the next 3 years,while never exposing his weak points.If he has to play,He shall play only against 3rd stringers.Also,Sir John McClain,with his impeccable writing skills,will spread the word of this great QB to the national audience.......by 2010, some team will give us their first day picks,I know this.

    I call this plan,Operacion:Henson :p
     
  2. kaleidosky

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    The funniest part of your post is that 2010 is actually not far away at all.. even though it sounds like it is. We're under 3 years from that date..ridiculous
     
  3. Major

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    I think Matt Schaub is Ric's personal nightmare. The trifecta of non-existent qualities: intangibles, leadership, and making other players better. :D

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4654864.html

    Schaub ready to be leader for Texans

    After arriving in Houston, one of the first things new quarterback Matt Schaub did was to ask the Texans for the phone numbers of his new teammates.

    Schaub plans to call all of them and introduce himself.

    "One of the most important areas of playing this position is being a leader, not only on the field but in the locker room, in the weight room, in the community," Schaub said at his introductory news conference. "Those are all the intangibles that a quarterback has to have and are part of his responsibility being able to lead the team, not just the offense, but the defense and special teams.

    "The quarterback is the leader of the entire group."

    Schaub, who turns 26 in June, started only two games both losses — in his three seasons at Atlanta.

    When coach Gary Kubiak studied Schaub (6-5, 237 pounds), he saw things he liked in the quarterback.

    For instance, in his second start a 31-28 loss to New England in 2005 Schaub threw for 298 yards and three touchdowns. He helped the Falcons overcome a 15-point, fourth-quarter deficit to tie the score before losing on a field goal.

    Obviously, Kubiak and Smith believe Schaub is the ideal quarterback to take the Texans where David Carr never could. Schaub is confident that he can meet the challenge.

    "I'm just a smart quarterback who can be accurate with the football and give my receiver an opportunity to do something with it after the catch," Schaub said. "You have to make sure that, as a team, you have one goal, one mindset and one heartbeat. And that starts from the top on down.

    "I'm going to meet the challenge head-on, but I'm not going to do it alone. I'm going to have a lot of help from the people around me."

    Schaub has everything the Texans want in a starting quarterback except experience. They paid dearly to acquire a quarterback with six touchdown passes and six interceptions in his career.

    Switching first-round positions this season and falling two spots to 10th and giving the Falcons second-round picks this year and in 2008 was too much compensation for a lot of Texans fans.

    Smith negotiated the trade with Falcons general manager Rich McKay.

    "I know there are a lot of opinions about what that value is," Smith said, "but if you think you've got an opportunity to get a starting quarterback you can build your franchise around a quarterback that can make people around him better you do it."

    Trading for Schaub to replace Carr was a bold move on the Texans' part.

    "This player is what an NFL quarterback should be — a leader who's a strong, smart, accurate passer," Smith said. "We entertained a lot of ideas, but at the end of the day, the acquisition just seemed to be the perfect one for us."

    The new contract Schaub signed calls for him to make $48 million over six years with $7 million guaranteed. The Texans are paying Schaub $20 million over the first three years. If they want to secure him for the last three years of the deal, they'll give him a $10 million bonus in 2010.

    In Carr's five seasons with the Texans, he earned $35 million, including an $8 million bonus a year ago that extended his contract by three years. Looking back, it turned out to be a huge mistake.

    "If you wanted to review the mistakes I've made in my life, you wouldn't have enough time, so I won't go into that," McNair said. "I'm going forward. This is about the future.

    "Yes, we've made mistakes — that's not the only place — and we'll make mistakes going forward. The key is you've got to make more good decisions than bad decisions.

    "I've said that we'll do whatever we need to do to win, and we're not going to let money stand in the way."


    :)
     
  4. MONON

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    This trade has no bearing on the Texans future unless the OL doesn't improve & stabilize. I've said this for a couple of years now. The OL destroyed Carr's confidence. The change was needed. However the situation is as much the fault of Texan management(for putting a rookie QB behind an offensive sieve-I mean line) as it is Carr's failure to perform up to expectations.

    I wish Carr well whereever he goes & hope Schaub does well here.
     
  5. robbie380

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    wow awesome comments by mcnair at the end. he sounds committed to winning and that's all you can ask for from an owner. now he just needs to get out of the way and let kubiak do his job.
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    Or unless we start winning. You know, several teams have managed to win Superbowls without Vince Young. :eek:

    I know it's hard for you to understand, but if we start winning, no one will give a frog's fat ass who the QB is. The whole city will be football crazy again.

    I love how people say no one gives a crap about the Texans right now. Have you listened to sports talk radio lately? Even before the Schaub trade. Hell, just take a look at how long this thread is.
     
  7. macalu

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    even the trolls who supposedly don't care for the Texans are in full swing in here.

    every move the Texans make to try to improve the team is shot down JUST because they want to be able to say "I told you so." :rolleyes:
     
  8. steddinotayto

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    The Texans shoulda drafted Julius Peppers.
     
  9. MadMax

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    i didn't think so then. but i was wrong.
     
  10. MadMax

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    http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/

    Giants defensive end Michael Strahan was in Houston on Thursday to play in a charity golf tournament to benefit the Ray Anthony Peacock scholarship fund. Strahan was asked what he thought about the Texans trading for Schaub, and he pointed out that before the Giants played the Falcons last season, he watched film of Schaub and starter Michael Vick.


    "We studied both of those guys," Strahan said. "He's (Schaub) a drop-back, almost like a Tom Brady-like quarterback. He's very composed, and he's very big. The word we were told when we were preparing for the Falcons was we almost don't want to put him in the game. We want to keep him on the sidelines. He's first-round talent. He's a very good player. I think the Texans did a good thing by getting him."


    That's for you fans who live by the glass-is-half-full philosophy.


    On Wednesday, I told you that one reason the Texans threw in the extra second-round pick is because other teams, including Oakland, wanted Schaub. Thanks to Larry House for pointing out that the Raiders' new offensive coordinator is Greg Knapp, who was Schaub's offensive coordinator the last three years with the Falcons. No wonder Oakland was hot on his trail.


    And thanks to Wahoo for pointing out that Bill Musgrave, the Falcons' quarterbacks coach last season who highly recommended Schaub to Gary Kubiak, also coached him at the University of Virginia.


    Let's see, now, Musgrave, Alex Gibbs and Al Groh all talked to Kubiak and gave Schaub glowing reviews. They've watched Schaub in practice, in meetings and on and off the field. It's amazing how so many fans know so much more than they do. Shoot, maybe they're all wrong.


    The truth is that none of us know for sure what Schaub's going to do. He could bomb out, or he could become a superstar. All I know is that I'm excited about the draft, the offseason program, training camp and, of course, regular season, which can't come soon enough.


    The schedule will be out soon. The Texans play the Falcons, Broncos, Saints and Titans. If Carr ends up with Oakland, man, how exciting would that be because the Texans play the Raiders again.
     
  11. rocket3forlife2

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    I was thinking more like you where....like the other guy said we should have gotten our offensive line problem solved first.With that said I think it was time for a change because I'm sick of the local media and the fans bashing david carr.
     
  12. leroy

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    Just to cement that a little more, there are 1717 posts in threads related to the Texans on the first page alone. Yeah...no one cares.
     
  13. swilkins

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    Here is another opinion on the Schaub deal from FOX sports.

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    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6596294

    Texans have a star in Schaub

    So much for Bobby Petrino saying the club would hold onto Matt Schaub, eh?

    I have been raving about Schaub's upside and now he'll get his shot in Houston.
    Schein's Spot


    One of the odd moves of the off-season was Tampa trading for Jake Plummer, who then said he was retired. Adam asked Bucs GM Bruce Allen what it means.
    Blog: Schein tackles the NFL
    E-mail: adamjschein@hotmail.com


    As first reported by our Jay Glazer, Atlanta receives Houston's second rounder in 2007 and 2008 and the clubs trade slots in round 1 (Atlanta now picks 8th, the Texans 10th) in a great move for Houston general manager Rick Smith, coach Gary Kubiak, and the Texans.

    Schaub has serious talent and moxie.

    He picked apart a Bill Belichick-coached defense to the tune of 298 yards in a 31-28 loss to the Patriots in 2005. If you remember the game, it was pretty heady stuff against a defense notorious for making star quarterbacks look pedestrian.

    Schaub has pinpoint accuracy, is a very good athlete, has a big league arm and oozes leadership. He played for an NFL coach in AL Groh at the University of Virginia, who prepped him for this opportunity.

    In other words, he's everything Kubiak wants in a quarterback.


    Poll

    I've always felt the criticism of David Carr in Houston was seriously unjust. Fans blamed him for the win total, the inept offense, global warming, gas prices ... everything. Fact is, Carr didn't have much help with a rag-tag offensive line. And it wasn't Carr who opted for Mario Williams over Reggie Bush.

    But forget my opinion on Carr. Or anyone else's.

    The only opinion that matters is Kubiak's, who lost all confidence in Carr after the coach's initial season in Texas.

    Thus, needing a quarterback, the Texans organization hit a home run.

    I've argued it for years — all Schaub needs to instantly be a top 16 quarterback is a full season. And that's just the tip. Schaub has Pro Bowl potential. And every player I've talked with from the Falcons in recent years, including guys like Alge Crumpler, DeAngelo Hall, Michael Jenkins, Brian Finneran, Warrick Dunn, rave about Schaub.

    In fact here's what Roddy White told us right after the trade.

    "He's got a lot of potential," White said. "He can make every throw. He is tall and can see everything over the line of scrimmage. He reads defenses well. He is like a coach for us. It is a big loss for us. That week in 2005 when Mike was out, he took over and just put everyone on his back. And really did a great job against the Patriots. He is ready to go."

    The Texans are a vastly improved team headed in the right direction. Eight wins can most certainly be in the cards this season.

    According to the Houston Chronicle, Schaub gets a six-year deal worth $48 million, with $7 million guaranteed and $20 million over the first 3 years.

    He'll be worth every penny.

    :)
     
  14. IROC it

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    Here's hopin'.
     
  15. hatemavs4life

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    ATL once traded another unknown backup nobody named Brett Favre! Remember him? He turned out pretty good.

    Kuby couldn't fix the heart and give DC a heart of a champion! It's either there or it's not?

    A nobody, I guess then count at least five or six other franchises as idiotic then because, that's why we had to give up the 2nd rounder. Competition for Schaub was pretty fierce.

    He's not a catchy big name but, hey I like his attitude from what I have heard coupled with Kuby's guidance, he could REALLY be a star in this league!

    What would you rather have? A QB that we know would continue the toppling phase of melting down and cripple chances for future success or have a QB who has the intellect and acumen to direct our offense? There's not one QB in the draft that can do that at least with any proficiency to start with.

    Bottom line, McNair blew it last year, and he knows it! He's trying to start to fix things. Give him credit, he may be dumb somewhat but, he's smart enough and wise enough to learn from his mistakes. Couple that with Smitty & Kuby showing more than ample confidence to finally drive this franchise in the RIGHT direction, hey things are looking up so be happy Texan fan! :)
    The best is yet to come ... :D :D :D
     
  16. hatemavs4life

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    Oops ... meant competence fixed it!
     
  17. ROCKSS

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    I am not sure about this but we will see. He is a back up QB that we are giving starting QB money to. It`s a risk so either Kubiak is a genius or reaching. I will give it some time but I dont agree with it, but hey its not my money. Back up`s are back up`s for a reason but hearing all the "experts" say what a great QB is we shall see. Good Luck
     
  18. Bobblehead

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    A friend of mine in Atlanta wrote this about Matt after I asked about him:

    Matt Shaub sucks…… He is useless…. I sat with him at the Falcons Kickoff Luncheon last year……. Each table gets to pick a player to sit with them and we got Matt….. He has ZERO personality and saw very little actual playing time….. When he did, he sucked…. Your almost better off with Carr!!!!!!

    Nice huh???
     
  19. Cannonball

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    Correction. He WAS a backup and is NOW a starter. Most starting QB's were backups and some point. Brett Favre was a backup before he got traded. Matt Hasselbeck was a backup to Favre before he got traded. Now if he had been in the leauge for 10 years without holding down a starting job, THEN I'd be worried.
     
  20. MadMax

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    ummm...he made very good use of his time, actually. the game he started vs. the Pats had people second-guessing mike vick.

    there was a vick camp among falcons fans and a schaub camp. sounds like your buddy was in the vick camp, and was resentful of schaub.
     

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