maybe they couldn't get anything. Its not that unreasonable to think there might not have been a market for him. He's got a big salary and everyone knew we wanted to get rid of him from day one of this offseason.
If I was a NFL GM I would trade for Rosenfel before I traded for Carr... This may take awhile or they might have to release him.
if they traded carr first, then they wouldn't have any leverage in getting Schaub. it works both ways.
I thought we were going to let that go Net affect of our Big moves under Kubiak- Vince Young + 2- 2nd round draft picks for Matt Schaub and Mario Williams We are either making some very good decisions or some not so good, I will become the optimist... Mario is going for 12 sacks this season and Schaub is going to lay down about 25 TD passes.
AMEN!!! it's a new day. the birds are singing. i feel seriously relieved. like after a good, long urination. another season of carr might have resulted in infection, for me.
Not crazy about the 2 2nd round picks, especially since the Texans found DeMeco there just last year, but if we start winning now, then it won't really matter. The timing is the only real big problem with this trade. Will we be able to even get a 3rd rounder for Carr?
Schaub is now a very rich man. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2808100 Schaub's new deal with Texans finalizes trade By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com The trade that sent Matt Schaub from the Atlanta Falcons to the Houston Texans not only made the three-year veteran quarterback an instant starter, it made Schaub -- who has yet to win a regular-season start and who barely completed 50 percent of his pass attempts in three seasons with the Falcons -- a very rich man. League and team sources confirmed that Schaub has signed a six-year, $48 million contract with the Texans, a move that officially consummates the trade. As part of the deal, Schaub -- who played golf with Houston coach Gary Kubiak on Monday in a get-acquainted session, the Houston Chronicle reported -- will receive $7 million in guarantees. Schaub, 25, will earn roughly $20 million in the first three years of the contract. After the first three years, the Texans must pay Schaub a $10 million option bonus in March 2010 to trigger the final three seasons of the contract, or he becomes a free agent. This is the same Houston team, though, that paid the soon-to-be-discarded David Carr a "buy back" bonus of $8 million last spring to reinstate three years of his contract that had voided. On Wednesday night, agent Joby Branion termed the Schaub deal, "a real contract" -- meaning it was a legitimate deal for a starting-caliber quarterback -- and he was accurate in that assessment. Certainly the economics of the deal all but mandate that Schaub will be the Texans' starter. And for Schaub, a third-round choice in the 2004 draft, it represents a financial windfall. As a rookie, Schaub signed a three-year, $1.365 million contract. It included a signing bonus of $445,000 and annual base salaries at the NFL minimum. Had he signed the one-year restricted free agent qualifying offer the Falcons made him early in the spring, Schaub would have had a base salary of $2.3 million for 2007. There was, his agents told ESPN.com more than a year ago, no way that Schaub would have considered a long-term deal that would have carried him past the 2007 season, since he would have been eligible for unrestricted free agency at that point. Whether Schaub would have been able to earn more by signing a one-year contract with the Falcons for 2007, and then going into the open market as an unrestricted free agent next spring, is now a moot point and a matter of speculation. Suffice it to say the contract that he signed to complete the Wednesday trade agreement is a healthy one. As for the Falcons, the trade allows the cap-strapped team to essentially recoup the $2.3 million qualifying offer it made to Schaub, and invest that money elsewhere. And the haul the team received in the trade -- a swap of first-round choices in 2007 and second-round picks in the 2007 and 2008 drafts -- provides Atlanta with considerable flexibility. The Falcons now own three selections among the top 44 picks in this year's draft: the eighth choice in the first round and the seventh and 12th selections in the second stanza. Armed with that kind of ammunition, the Falcons could parlay those three choices to move up the draft board in the first round, perhaps to nab hometown hero Calvin Johnson, the former Georgia Tech wide receiver. Or the Falcons could combine the two second-round picks to acquire another choice near the middle of the first round. Most teams use a chart, principally developed by former Dallas and Miami coach Jimmy Johnson, that assigns a points value to every choice in the draft. The corresponding points for the eighth pick in the first round is 1,400. The two second-round choices owned by the Falcons are worth 510 points (the seventh choice in the round) and 460 points (the 12th). The total points value for the Falcons' three choices in the first two rounds is 2,370 points. On the points chart, the second overall choice in the entire draft, owned by Detroit -- which is rumored to be interested in trading back -- is worth 2,600 points. Atlanta would fall a little shy of that, but not by much, with its 2,370 points for the three choices in the first and second rounds. But the Falcons have more than enough points to swap up to the No. 3 overall pick (points value: 2,200) or the fourth choice (value: 1,800 points), if they desired. By combining the two picks in the second round, with a total value of 970 points, Atlanta could net the 17th overall selection (points value: 950) in the first round. The early read is that the Falcons, who definitely need to replenish their talent base and desperately require reinforcements at a number of key positions, will simply stand pat and exercise all three of their high-round choices. That should, in theory, net Atlanta three top-tier prospects who could play quickly for first-year coach Bobby Petrino. But in making the Schaub trade, the Falcons have provided themselves the potential for maneuvering up the draft board if they want, and for being active and creative in the early stages of the lottery. Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.
Is there something in the air in the Houston area, like petrochemicals that cause professional sports teams to do inexplicable things: stupid drafts, stupid contracts, stupid personnel moves...... Does "stupid" live in Houston near the headquarters of professional sports teams?????? This guy better be Tony Romo Jr, or this is as dumb as Mario Williams as the number one pick when VY was available.
Not really. Only $7MM is guaranteed. Basically, they can cut him anytime they want with little to no penalty.
I don't understand being mad at the contract. They gave up a lot to get him, of course they will sign him to a long term deal. They must have been sold on him to give up that much to get him, so the contract is normal. Now the question is - Is he the real deal? I hope so and think he will be
When you look at nfl contracts look at guarantees not total value. 7 mil over the life of that contract is pennies
Yeah, that's what they said about Plummer. He got traded. He retired afterwards but he did get traded.
Yes, but if he stays 3 years, I read he'll be paid $20MM...That is a lot for an unproven guy...I hope he's this years Tony Romo...I would have expected Tony to get a bump in pay as well...IMHO, I think we gave too much, but I"m not Gary...The problem is, he thought he could work with Carr so we "invested $8MM last spring on a QB that we hope to get something for...
Certainly true, but that's not really anything more than we were paying Carr. That's about $6.6MM a yr. For the next two years, we were going to pay Carr $6MM a year (plus $2MM/yr signing bonus which we have to pay regardless). So basically, if he's any kind of upgrade over Carr, you're paying him the same amount for better performance - the salaries are a wash. I think any "cost" to this move is more associated with the draft picks we traded.
