Sounds like a consistent description of the new QB... pocket passer, throws a more traditional "over the top" motion, good touch on short and medium passes but doesn't have a strong arm, good decision maker but tends to get "happy feet".
Honestly, the funny thing is I think Moulds would be perfect with Schaub at QB. He might have shown some signs of aging, but I felt he was underutilized last year with Carr and his love for quick outs.
The Texans are most likely going to trade down and try to recoup the lost second rounder this year. I think its a smart move to trade down and get more picks for all the holes on this team. I'm not too keen on this trade, but you have to give up value in order to get value. Hopefully Schaub will prove to be the QB that we need to get us over .500.
Wow, just got home and noticed this... My thoughts. I like Schaub and I think he can do well. Not sure where is ceiling is, but it will definitely be an improvement. 2 second round picks is a little steep, imo. Im not too sure I like that since I am a big fan of hoarding draft picks. Im hoping Carr can give us back one of those...but it will probably be a 3rd rounder in exchange for him. Im disappointed about swapping first round picks. That means no Landry. In other words, Atlanta got 2 second rounders and essentially guaranteed themselves Landry. Great, great deal for them. That would be awesome if we could give Oakland the keys to Carr in exchange for Porter and their 3rd. That, or I'd look to trade down...again, focusing on NE two first rounders or the Bears, pick 31 and 37.
I know there has been ZERO info about this but I honestly think if it is manageable, I don't see why a Carr for Porter trade wouldn't be beneficial for both clubs. We get the 2nd WR we need and they get the QB they need to go along with Moss and maybe Calvin Johnson. Would I rather get more for Carr? Of course, but getting Porter isn't bad at all.
What a bunch of r****ds. Is casserly behind this? It has his fingerprints all over? Butt rape and all.
exactly, how i feel. i'm very interested in landry but if it's true that the texans planned on getting quinn at 8 then we wouldn't have gotten him anyway. this gives us our quarterback and frees up the 10th pick for someone else. plus i don't know that the talent level between 8 and 10 is even a dropoff at all. that second-rounder this year really hurts, especially coming off stealing demeco in the second.
How can a team with so many holes on it, afford to give away high draft picks like this? If I were them I would've used the 1st rounder on a OT like Levi Brown or a Safety in LaRon Landry. Then they could spend the second round on a Justin Blaylock or Dameion Hughes. There are gaping holes on the O-line and Secondary, and the LBs are shaky, and those 2nd round picks are valuable. I'm not bashing Schaub -> I happen to think he might be worth the gamble, and might even end up as a Matt Hasselbeck type if given the chance to shine. But with so many holes, I would've rather addressed the QB via free agency. It's not like this team is in "win-now" mode anyways. So what's the rush?
if you think schaub is a guy who has potential to be a good QB, you do it. that's it. if you think a guy can be your starter, you don't let 2 second round draft picks keep you from it. who is available in free agency?
For those saying swapping first round picks isn't a big deal, do y'all believe in the pick value chart that they use at draft time? I have no idea how seriously this thing is taken.... Going by the chart the 8th pick is worth 1,400 points, and the 10th pick is worth 1,300 points...a 1,000 point difference. For comparisons sake, the last pick of the 1st round is worth 590 points. http://www.theredzone.org/2006/draft/draftvaluechart.asp
Who's left on the FA market that is marginally better than Carr? I'm with you on the point that we have holes to fill but any FA QB would be a Rent-An-Arm. I would rather start Sage than sign a FA QB if that helps.
Even if nobody's available in free agency, I don't see Matt Schaub as being a huge upgrade over David Carr at this point. At least Carr has the relative experience as a starter. It just seems like Schaub is grossly overvalued, which is cause for concern when there are huge holes all over the team that need addressing.
Here is a nice pro-trade post from another board: Anyone who thinks the Texans got fleeced is crazy. Matt Schaub is a 25 year old 6'5", 240 pound former third round pick who has had three years to sit and learn the NFL game. He was a tremendous QB at Virginia and has shown nothing but positive potential in the NFL. Not saying he is going to be a star, or even succeed, but I think he has no more bust potential than the QBs who will be drafted this season. Where would he fall in this year's draft if he was in the player pool; would he go above Quinn and/or Russell? Would he be a first round pick? Giving up two seconds and the swap of firsts (8 to 10) this year is essentially valuing Schaub as a middle to late first round pick this season. At a position the Texans need, I don't see this as being any riskier than spending a first or second round pick this season on a developmental QB. Look at some of the draft day trades for QB over the last few years. NYG - Manning: an extra first, two seconds and Phillip Rivers. Buf - Losman: A future first round pick to swap a second for a first with Dallas to draft him. Bal - Boller: A future first round pick to swap a second for a first with New England to draft him. In comparison, the Schaub deals looks like a bargain against these three.
