Matt Schaub a Texan???

I also still like the move. Though I bet Schaub was the FOURTH choice, after Plummer, Garcia, and Ramsey. I think they Texans preferred to keep all their picks and take one of those guys (who IMO would be worse than Schaub). And mybe Kubiak is too confident in his QB- molding abilities if he really wanted Plummer and Ramsey.

 

so now its being a puppet critically looking at a deal?

 

we get Schaub at QB. this prevents us from picking a QB with our 8th pick. at number 10, we can go a number of ways.

we still have Carr to move. this deal really isn't done until we see what we get for Carr.

 

then you're underrating matt schaub's potential and how highly those around the NFL think of him.

 

i disagree. i think they felt schaub was not obtainable, because that's what the falcons communicated. but at this point of his career, he is the only one of the guys you listed who has anything remotely resembling upside.

 

I'll take a long term answer behind center and possibly a great quarterback for two 2nd round pick any day of the week.

Hopefully the Falcons will be known for giving up Favre and now Schaub.

GREAT MOVE!

 

particulalry when you consider what other trades have cost teams this offseason in terms of draft picks.

 

Chunk up the deuce for Carr!

"See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya!"

 

So the Texans didn't bother inquiring about Schaub until after Plummer and Garcia were gone? I doubt that, I bet they just didn't want to give up so many picks.

 

For a comparison:

When Seattle aquired Matt Hasselbeck from Green Bay, they swapped first rounders (pick 10 for 17) and gave up a 3rd round pick (#72 overall).

 

You gotta love the Houston sports media.

Schaub was born June 1981...so he will be 26.

 

Well, then Justice is right. He's 25 and then be 26 in June.

 

wasn't this because:

1. Plummer is a QB that Kubiak knows well. There would have been little to no learning curve when it came to Kubiak's offense for Jake. And Jake was shown the door once Cutler got going.

2. Garcia's hot streak probably made him too expensive on the FA market. He would have came at a lower price if he had signed with Houston instead of Philly BEFORE last season.

3. Schaub was being held at a King's ransom by the Falcons at the end of the season I believe. The Falcons knew that they couldn't give up on Vick at QB (which would have set their franchise back about 10 years) and also knew that there were a lot of teams out there that needed a QB.

4. And once Plummer's rights were traded and then the Snake retired (tacked on the signing of Garcia to the Bucs), both the Texans and the Falcons were in a bind. Texans saw the well for FA or available QBs were getting dry and the Falcons saw that they couldn't try to finagle a better deal for Schaub, so both teams got this deal done.

Granted, this is all based on what I've read and heard, but it seems plausible. Schaub is better than Jake in terms of age and athleticism. Sure, the guy hasn't won a single game yet, but I rather see Schaub as our QB than a retread Plummer. As for Schaub vs. Garcia, I don't know. I wouldn't mind having Garcia, but I think he would also have been just another stop-gap player for the Texans. With Schaub, you at least get the satisfaction that you're starting with a QB that has potential and not one that has seen better days.

 

My only regret is that I wish we'd have given up our third this year instead of our second.

Swapping draft positions, that's basically nothing, considering all signs pointed to Quinn and Peterson being taken before 8. With the 10, we can go a few different ways...Offensive Line (Levi Brown), Safety (LaRon Landry or Nelson), Cornerback (Hall), Defensive Line (Okoye or Branch), Receiver (Ginn), Line Backer (Willis), etc. We could even go after Marshawn Lynch, or force the Bills to move up two spots to select him (if they're interested), possibly getting a pick back.


I'm curious to see what Schaub and Carr can do on their respected new teams.

 

Either that, or the Falcons were holding out thinking the market would be bigger. They had to dump him for something or they were going to lose him for nothing next offseason.

This really didn't cost the Texans that much.

We lost two #2 picks. However, we saved one that would have been used on a QB (probably a #3 pick). We hopefully get a #3 or #4 pick out of Carr. So in effect, it's not THAT much off a loss.

 

I always thought he did an okay job on the radio when talking about the Stros. I didn't realize he flip flops on the stros like he does our other teams. I don't read much about the Stros in the Chron, as I live in Dallas (just really the Rockets)

As for my thoughts on him as well, see sig

 

LaRon Landry..

 

I agree with you up until #4. I don't see why the Falcons were in a bind. First, they didn't need to trade Schaub at all, and they could have gotten him for good value next year. That's not the same as the Texans, who couldn't afford to keep Carr any longer.

Don't get me wrong, I personally like Schaub better than those other guys. But I don't think the Texans thought Schaub was better than Plummer/Garcia/Ramsey + two 2nd rounders. Hence all the rumors about the Texans going after those guys first.

Also, I think the Falcons got as much as they could hope for. They got a kings ransom for their backup QB, as far as they are concerned. We probably won't even get that much for Carr.

 

Why would the Falcons need to dump him? They could have easily held onto him another year and he'd still have lots of value. Also, I don't think the Texans ever planned on using a lower pick on a QB, the plan was to get one in free agency. So in that sense it is losing 2 2nd rounders. My guess is the Texans sweetened the offer enough that they decided they could let him go after all.

 

agreed...if the texans replace even ONE of those 2 second rounders back, it would be a lot.