I was thinking that might happen but I didn't wanna accept that,I wanted 2 get him traded And get some1 pretty good in return,but I guess its gonna happen...sign and trade,or Decent free agent this off season,that's how its lookin
Assuming no McGrady trade goes down. And your at odds losing Lowry and Scola who one of the two walk in the offseason. Which is what cards are being dealt to Houston through any scenario Example: Jeffries. Assuming Wall is still available with Utah on the clock than what do you do? Do you trade Yao to Utah and have them select Wall for you and ship over Kerilenko? Or What? They have Williams do they need Wall? What if Boozer resigns with them? Who do they draft? What is a position of need for them?
That didnt answer my question at all and are you actually suggesting those 3 teams would trade all of those guys in one deal??
I don't think Morey is so high on Budinger/Scola/Batter. But at the same time, other GMS are not so high on Budinger/Scola/Batter either, I guess. Rockets is a team of role players at this moment, and there is not a shortage of role players in NBA nowadays.
I'd do it. The motto around Houston is go young. Take a look at your odds. Not making a McGrady trade is a huge risk within itself on top of other risk as well. this would lead to a season set back, because nobody is thinking in advance. Because of the cap coming down and Houston being over the cap AND after you renouce Scola&Lowry lolz your only left with 9 million after Cook comes off the books AND decline Hayes team option. If you lose Scola or Lowry it's time to jump the gun.
Got to disagree, I think Morey is getting tons of calls about these guys but as has been mentioned before Morey tends to overvalue his players while looking for the ideal trade. Most Contenders would LOVE to have Battier or Scola and I am sure both Wash and Philly have asked for Budinger the question is what else are they asking for??? You are right about role players being all over the place but these guys are not just role players they are "glue guys" very big difference.
We are already at Odds and ofcource teams are going to make bigger offers to Scola and Lowry. Scola is new to the NBA he's lokking for the home run deal, same with Lowry except he is young. And by looking at who is left on the market, guess what? Nobody left on the market is better then they are who can even possibly afford. Someone pays for Ginobili and that is where Scola will go.
I don't know if any contenders are looking for Tmac's expring contracts, and I don't know if they would want to give up much for Scola/Battier. They would want them for free, yes, but they may not want them at the expense of good young prospects. The question about Wa****on/Philly is not what else they are asking for, but what they are willing to give up. Iggy/Dalembert for Tmac's contract alone may not be that good to Rox in a long run, Iggy/Dalmbert for Tmac/Cbud makes is really worse. If other teams don't want to offer enough for Morey to consider trading Scola/Battier/Cbud, it could mean other GMs like them, but not that high like you'd like to think.
Things don't look to good, actually we all wont know untill the deadline. I can pretty much predict the next 2 seasons of what happens by the deadline. McGrady is not worth 22 million according to value, his value is only 7 million -which is good enough for a top 5-15 pick. According to this value, your actually forking out more money just to do a sign and trade to Chicago. You are forking out around 4 million more for a season rental. 4 million is good enough to buy a pick.
This is why it was so stupid of management to go this route publicly especially without him even playing him. They put themselves in a position where everyone knows t-mac will be bought out after deadline so no ones going to trade for him. Playing him would have only risen his stock and our record, but because Adelman didn't want to were limited to only using him as a expiring In which the only teams that want expirings are lottery teams, teams that lack elite players, but had he played Im sure you'd have contenders interested teams with elite players. Lottery teams will want more than just an expiring unless you take their bad contracts with the player, they will also want back draft picks and young talent something Moery doesn't want to give-up.
True. That was their decision and will stick to it. I'm sure they already sought out what their plans were.
Not sure if this is the right thread for this question, I think Conroy's 10 day contract is close to being up, with the recent injury to Lowry , will the team sign him to another 10 day contract, or even see if Wafer is available for a spark of offensive off the bench? Thanks for the help
I don't know how you got the conclusion "Playing him would have only risen his stock and our record". From they way Tmac played on court, it was going the other direction. Let's not make assumptions based on nothing please.
"Nobody is untouchable" I thought was more just to generate trade talk. As in approach us with ALL offers to get some talks going and we'll go from there... It doesnt necessarily imply desperation, or that they WILL deal anyone pennies on the dollar. As in my guys are untouchable, your Chris Pauls are untouchable too, right?
It is just really annoying to be a fan of the rockets management now. I think most of us, fans, are restless and really just want to move on from the T-Mac era and at least receive some assets for him. It just sucks we been trying to trade him since the ending of December and all we hear are rumors out there. I wish something would happen already but I guess we will find out in two weeks. I know alot of ya ll wont agree with me but if we dont trade T-Mac why wouldnt we use him? Are we really going to let 23 million just sit and rot on the bench? As someone mentioned before i really think the Rockets management handle this very stupidly. Yeah you can argue T-Mac screwed them over last February but if you were planning to trade the guy from the getgo then stop toying with our minds and freaking do so.
I think to have a fair deal. You'll need to look at teams in the range of picks 7-15 to strike a deal AND 'yes' you would be taking back an unfair contract. You might have a deal with Golden State if your lucky. You take back 2 ugly contracts and their 2nd pick. On draft day, assuming pick @1 is a team in the 3-7 range and get lucky and have Utah slide in @1, and Wall is on the clock AND you have Yao Ming under contract for his last season AND #2 pick. utah already has Williams @point guard. What do you do? I say let Utah draft Wall first and then trade Yao Ming to Utah for the #1 pick and Kerilenko. Then you have both #1and#2 picks
It's proven he's one of the best players in the league when healthy(which he is now) all he needed was time, as would any player who has been out as long as he has. Do you think Yao is going to come back and dominate in 5 five games playing 8 mins, it usually takes him half a season to get back to playing at a high level. This was like preaseason for t-mac, what do you have to lose playing a guy in his contract year?..you can only benefit from that, because you know the player will play it's best. So yes, his stock could go no where but up, where you would actually have some teams interested in him as a player and a expiring where more teams would be interested, and not just lottery teams(because it's a reason their in the lottery)
