They don't seem to be too much better right now either. It probably will get better at the deadline,but I'm sure teams are asking for our young guys too.
I'll be shocked if McGrady isn't moved by the deadline. I think this is all posturing by Morey to drive up what he can get by making it look like we just might not care if a deal is made or not. In other words, what we've all been hearing for weeks. It is still what I think will happen. Posturing, followed by a deal that will surprise us. I just hope I like it.
What i'm saying is if he's traded he will be the last move of all any moves if we make any at all. There is other teams who want to make sure they have enough cap space to sign sombody decent next season and his move alone can take those chances away from teams.
Were are all the insiders at.you would think as big as this site is there would be someone on here who knows whats really going on about tmac.
To kill this strategy Philly and Phoenix are two teams trying to kill it. I think it will require 4 teams to kill the strategy of money-ball or hard-ball Houston/Philly/Washington/Phoenix or Boston what ever. Give us expiring contracts and a top ten pick and it's fair game as long as we aint taking nothing back.
I guess everybody knows now how his contract is pure hostage take over lmao!. First it held the team hostage. Now it's holding the league hostage.
I was bored and came out with this strategy moving into the future. So you had the #2, #5, #6, #7, #8 #9, #14 picks in the draft who do you choose? Ariza for Detroit pick (5), Wallace, Brown, Bynum, Atkins Lowry, Cook, Budinger for Washingtons pick (6) and Haywood Battier, Dorsey for Minnesotas pick (2) and Blount Scola, for Utah's pick (9) and Miles Taylor, Andersen for Indiana's pick (7) and Watson Well rule #1 never pass up bigmen. Rule #2 never pass up talent. Rule #3 stay away from undersized scorers. We have Brooks, So we don't need Wall to fill any playing time as much as it would benifit another team. You have Yao 1 year remaining, Brooks and Landry both 1 year remaining. I never got to the McGrady thing yet. I'd go with Derrick Favors#2, Al-Farouq Aminu#5, Wesley Johnson#6, Cole Alrich#7, Xavier Henry#9 AND Solomon Alabi#14 AND what ever with the next pick. To land another top 10 pick through Philly, all you do is move McGrady to Philly or whatever and take nothing back at all just thier pick and MAYBE move LLuLL and bring back all expiring contracts. This trade might have Iggy, Speights, Williams, Young, Stoudemire, Allen, Butler, Jamison so on... and so on..... just to land that top ten pick somewhere for McGrady!!! What you say?
that's a crazy trade scenario....you're all over the place with the value of our players and/or the picks. Ariza alone prob isn't even worth a 5, much less a 5 plus those other guys. Battier and dorsey aren't worth a 2...and so on..
Well i understand this. It's not always the value that matters. It's about what the team needs to do to make upgrades somewhere. Looking at some teams who would be over the cap, unfair contracts, they might look to do simple trades with their picks to upgrade positions, because they might not be in any position to do it during the offseason. Think about that.
why would minny want an older player and a nbdl "star" for their high pick? They're giving up blount's expiring and a pick, to get back no solid young talent, and take on 7 mill for next season? how does that make sense? Haywood is also an expiring 6 mill deal, as are cook and lowry who make about 5 mill total, So you're basically trading budinger for a # 6 pick. Washington doesnt gain space and gives away their #6 for budinger, who's value is more like a 15-20 pick. Maybe 10-15, but not top 10. You bascially want to rape these other teams, they arent gaining anything from these deals, why would they hand over top 10 picks??
Maybe Dorsey is a better fit with Love rather than Jefferson. Maybe they have plans to move Jefferson and need pieces? We are actually giving up the value, we are taking on negative value. All those players except for Cook have postive value. All those players we are making moves for have negative value.
Like i been trying to say. Deep draft alot of big men etc.. teams with alot of cap space. Sign and trade possibilites etc... Teams will need to remove contracts, take on assets, resign players, upgrade through trades instead of drafts. Combination of different players. Financial measures. Morey already said if we are to improve the team, than it will be through trades. Sometimes it's through drafts.
i think you're just throwing out things without really thinking about how they fit. Dorsey isn't even a center, we just made him into one. No other team is really gonna look at dorsey to be their center. why would they not just draft a true center with the pick they are giving up? where are you getting this positive and negative value, in terms of what? Money value, talent value? How does a high pick have negative value? how does battier have positive value going to a young team headed nowhere? there's two sides to every deal.
There is a thing called salary ranking and NBA ranking. Teams do usually make moves for players if they have it in their minds that the player is either short term or long term. If Minny moves Jefferson, they may have a Center sought out on their rader like Bynum. They may hold interest and use Battier's expiring as a trading chip to take on salary some how. You don't know what GM's talk about behind the surface.
still sounds like you're throwing out strategies, examples, and options without thinking of how they fit. Bynum and jefferson make just about the same salary. Battier makes 7 mill. why would they take on battier's salary, which is for one more year still, just to have a shot at bynum? If the lakers dont take the offer then minny is screwed, left with 7 mill next year instead of blount's 7 mill expiring this summer. With ron, odom, and kobe on the lakers, battier doesnt really fit. i dont see them giving up ron, odom or fisher for battier. Minny won't take Morrison or shasha...that's who's closest to battier's salary...
I'm giving you an example lolz. I have not looked into it, just an example. Jefferson is not a center which is taking minutes from Love and they don't mesh together. They have Rubio, NY has Lee think sign and trade. Again just another example, hidden agendas, ulterior motives.
so what you're saying is that you didnt really look into the trade scenarios you presented, and they are all "examples"....you havent really provided any reasoning for them other than this example, which was also not reasonable...all you're saying is we should try and steal picks for teams that would be willing to give them up. That may work once, maybe twice, but is highly unlikely to happen more than that. Especially because you may go intot he draft wanting and hoping to trade half the roster in return for several picks, and by the end of the draft you may only come back with one, possibly screwing up the roation and still having holes.
