the whole cave dancing, techno music, party scene just seemed weird and out of place. thousands of sweating, groping, dirty people just getting freaky. seemed strange.
"I think this is what is the matrix. Since we are humans we believe that the movie must be about people. But actually it is about software and mainframe code. The main computer has been caught in a loop cycle for 5 iterations, and it is trying to find a variance that will break this cycle by utilizing a random bit anomaly piece of software (Neo), to allow it to fully complete its cycle. It has tried this before, but has always failed and in its attempts. It is trying to factor in all variables of its program to make absolute sure of complete success before it attempts to actually implement the complete procedure, like an good piece of software (debugging iteself - "it is the why that is important"). Beta software waiting to go gold. The only factor that was not counted on was an anomaly of two programs intersecting and one becoming a self-replicating virus bent on absolute destruction (Smith), and the anomoly (Neo) complementing his program with protectorate software. This is a brilliant movie, that once you wrap your head around, is really just an ultimate version of Tron with no human watchers (Jeff Bridges), of a computer SuperNoc running through a simulation with all possible factors being worked first, before it initializes the program for real. If Neo completes his role and meets his ultimate purpose as software, then our hero allows the computer to see all variances that it will need to contend with, so that it can fully implement the real program on our world. Matrix - main base operating system. Zion - secondary operating system for software that can no longer can function in main sytem - but can be utilized to build new a matrix system. Neo - Random bit anomaly software for breaking loop cycle – utilized by the Oracle and Architect software to be a random variable to upgrade itself – upgraded with protectorate code from Smith (Anti-Virus). Trinity - complement software to aid in Neo's completion of purpose. Morpheus and crew - collector programs for mainframe to try to enable the end of the loop cycle. Architect - Mainframe operating system. Oracle - old Macro Software that has been part of all 5 iterations of the loop and can see all variances. Oracle's Protector - Mainframe hard code software. Merovingian - old Neo that did not fully implement objective in beta 5.0. Merovingian's wife - old trinity code. Twins, and Merovingian's guards - old base black ice protector code. Head Counselor in Zion - Advisor for Mainframe that advises Neo along his upgrade to not touch the main bios (engineering) systems. Key Maker - come on now, to easy, a simple keygen. Smith - self-replicating virus - now capable of moving to either system – infused with anomaly code from Neo. I truly loved this movie and it is so amazingly deep compared to the first if you know what it really happening. I hope this helps anyone who walked out of the theater like 95% of the crowd I saw it with, scratching their heads thinking, "What the f**K, that was stupid I don’t get it." I am stating that what I am saying is absolute, but if you watch the movie and listen to what they all truly are saying it seems pretty obvious. Be wary all, your hero is our destruction, enjoy … All your base are belong to us " X2 can't **** with this...
"I think this is what is the matrix. Since we are humans we believe that the movie must be about people. But actually it is about software and mainframe code. The main computer has been caught in a loop cycle for 5 iterations, and it is trying to find a variance that will break this cycle by utilizing a random bit anomaly piece of software (Neo), to allow it to fully complete its cycle. It has tried this before, but has always failed and in its attempts. It is trying to factor in all variables of its program to make absolute sure of complete success before it attempts to actually implement the complete procedure, like an good piece of software (debugging iteself - "it is the why that is important"). Beta software waiting to go gold. The only factor that was not counted on was an anomaly of two programs intersecting and one becoming a self-replicating virus bent on absolute destruction (Smith), and the anomoly (Neo) complementing his program with protectorate software. This is a brilliant movie, that once you wrap your head around, is really just an ultimate version of Tron with no human watchers (Jeff Bridges), of a computer SuperNoc running through a simulation with all possible factors being worked first, before it initializes the program for real. If Neo completes his role and meets his ultimate purpose as software, then our hero allows the computer to see all variances that it will need to contend with, so that it can fully implement the real program on our world. Matrix - main base operating system. Zion - secondary operating system for software that can no longer can function in main sytem - but can be utilized to build new a matrix system. Neo - Random bit anomaly software for breaking loop cycle – utilized by the Oracle and Architect software to be a random variable to upgrade itself – upgraded with protectorate code from Smith (Anti-Virus). Trinity - complement software to aid in Neo's completion of purpose. Morpheus and crew - collector programs for mainframe to try to enable the end of the loop cycle. Architect - Mainframe operating system. Oracle - old Macro Software that has been part of all 5 iterations of the loop and can see all variances. Oracle's Protector - Mainframe hard code software. Merovingian - old Neo that did not fully implement objective in beta 5.0. Merovingian's wife - old trinity code. Twins, and Merovingian's guards - old base black ice protector code. Head Counselor in Zion - Advisor for Mainframe that advises Neo along his upgrade to not touch the main bios (engineering) systems. Key Maker - come on now, to easy, a simple keygen. Smith - self-replicating virus - now capable of moving to either system – infused with anomaly code from Neo. I truly loved this movie and it is so amazingly deep compared to the first if you know what it really happening. I hope this helps anyone who walked out of the theater like 95% of the crowd I saw it with, scratching their heads thinking, "What the f**K, that was stupid I don’t get it." I am stating that what I am saying is absolute, but if you watch the movie and listen to what they all truly are saying it seems pretty obvious. Be wary all, your hero is our destruction, enjoy … All your base are belong to us " X2 can't **** with this...
The French Guy, - the Mornvingian or whatever - is supposed to be code, like The Oracle or The Keymaker. He was a program that was facing deletion, and turned into an 'Exile'. (This is what the Agents referred to the Keymaker as). From what I understood...the building he was in was 'encrypted' in some way, much like the tech hallways or 'backdoors' that couldn't be read by Operators. Essentially, the French guy is the opposite of the Oracle...taking for granted, of course, that the Oracle is actually a 'good' program. Also... WHO THE HECK was the guy that was being rushed out of the room when Neo and Co. first visit the French Guy? Neo seemed to recognize him briefly, and I swear he looks damn familiar.
Rokkit: Wayy too sharp for me. I didn't even notice the stranger you are talking about. As far as the idea that they were in an area that couldn't be seen. You are exactly right. The areas that are in "offline" areas. I haven't been a computer writing geek since 1986, but these are groundbreaking ideas. As oveRRated said.... it does sound like a grand TRON. (just wish the son-of-a-b hadn't mentioned it in the "reviews" thread. That's just wrong!
Great post OverRRated, it really twisted my noodle. I have a feeling that the Matrix series will go down as one of the greats when it concludes with Revolutions. An epic. That was wrong OverRRated putting that post in the review section and I would have been pissed reading that going into Reloaded. However, you might have spoiled Matrix 3 for this thread also.
Did anyone else think that the accidental EMP (that caused the 5 ships to go down when they were trying to fight the sentinels) was done by the Agent Smith infected human via the same method that Neo used? The Oracle being a program was very unexpected. I still think she is benevolent and I hope they don't reveal her as a vilan. I didn't see the dual Matrix scenario while watching the movie but now that you guys mention it, it does sound very plausible. Great thinking. I also thought that since Neo had entered the source that now he was connected to the machines in some sort of way and that's why he was able to sense them coming and EMP them. If Neo can pretty much do anything he wants in the Matrix then why can't he teleport? Also if you are mentally/physically handicapped in the Matrix, will you be that way if they unplug you from it? The scenes from Revolutions were sweet, it looks like a huge fight between Neo and Agent Smith and they are surrounded by 100's of other Agent Smiths in this monsoon. I think Naobi is dead. Also did someone mess with the railing on the ship so that it would fall the way it dead or was it just old?
Yeah, that guy on the other bed behind Neo was the guy who was infected by Smith earlier in the movie (same guy who tried to stab Neo, same guy who tried to talk his capt into going out and finding the fate of the Nebbacaneezer). I dug the preview although the credits were god-awful long. Niobi isnt dead. She just picked them up. Or do you mean "She's dead" in the next flick? Hoping that the twins come back. Still a sweet flick.
Did you just cut & paste this from the yahoo message boards, or did you author it verbatim on two separate boards? Matrix yahoo messageboard The more I think about it, the more I believe Neo is an attempt to create the ultimate AI. I think everyone we have seen so far is a program except for representations of the Architect and Oracle. (Alpha and Omega). When Neo finally succeeds, mankind will have created a digital human. Remember, this problem supposedly started with the creation of AI. 5 before him have not met expectations. The 6th Build will be the keeper.
I believe Merovingian indicated to Neo during the foyer medievil weapons fight that he had faced Neo's predecesors before. This would throw out the enitre "Merovingian is a previous Neo" theory. Plus the Oracle indicated that Merovingian was a program, I believe.
this is nothing, but... did anybody else notice the resemblance of the blond lady that merovingian sent the chocolate pie to and the blond lady in the red dress that the geeky guy programed in the first matrix? again, probably nothing, but merovingian a program... lady in the red dress a program... makes sense, huh? sorry... i get really bored sometimes.
Neo started out as a computer progammer right? That's how he was found. Okay, this is a far out idea I've got from reading these posts. Neo, chose to save to save Trinity over the the rest of Zion. Maybe the machines are preparing him to write the ultimate matrix program, that will prevent any more humans from rebeling. Maybe it was a test. Maybe they will offer him something in return for building the ultimate matrix program that will prevent humans from ever rebeling against the programs. Maybe the architect finally realized that he needs a human mind to write a program that will but 100% full proof, and he needed to test Neo to see if he would choose his own interest over humanity. Just to add, if the rebels really are humans, why did the machines not kill Neo at the end. Just a thought.
I think you're right. The first time I saw the blond lady that was eating the cake I thought she was the woman in the red dress in Matrix 1. Could be wrong but they do look very similar.
