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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by joesr, Aug 30, 2013.

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  1. IzakDavid13

    IzakDavid13 Contributing Member

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    I'm in the iPhone & thought it said 'Meth Question', could've answered that one...
     
  2. francis 4 prez

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    0/0 = 0 in the same universe where the treadmill keeps the plane from taking off.
     
  3. Steve_Francis_rules

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    The problem isn't about taking a limit, so I don't see how L'Hopital's Rule applies.
     
  4. Ashes

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    No. You can't divide by zero. Not even 0/0.
     
  5. rage

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    Here is an easier math problem;

    y/x = 2

    If x is 0, what is y ?
     
  6. Dairy Ashford

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    It's an identity; no real solution to z. Multiply both sides of y = z - x/y by y and you get y^2 = zy - x.
    Subtract zy from both sides and you get y^2 - zy = -x
    Isolate the extra y on the left and you get y(y - z) = x.
    0(0 - z) = 0, means z could equal any number and you'd still get the same f(z).
     
  7. Dairy Ashford

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    "If you're leading your life in such a way that you never have to do math, congratulations, you are a donkey." - Maddox
     
  8. Nero

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    I don't understand why people keep saying this.

    Any interger divided into ZERO PARTS .. IS ZERO

    Hehe I think a lot of math majors neglect to also study logic
     
  9. joesr

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    What logic tells me is that if you are dividing by zero you are not dividing at all so is that a problem to be solved? So I can see the undefined reference.
     
  10. durvasa

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    What is an integer divided into 0.5 parts according to your logic? 0.5, or twice the original number?
     
  11. sugrlndkid

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    y = z - x/y where y=0, z=0. what is x?

    Rarely do most math folks insert the values before simplifying the equation...

    y - z = -x/y

    y(y-z) = -x

    y^2- yz = -x

    x = - (y^2 - yz)

    x = - (0^2 - 0*0)

    x = 0

    by the rules of PEMDAS(aka order of operations)...you have to do it this way first....Parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition and subtraction...This why the answer is zero and not undefined...
     
  12. Invisible Fan

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    I'm a fat b*stard and the answer is bacon.
     
  13. snowconeman22

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    This is exactly what I think .. Who puts in values before isolating the variable that they want to solve for ? We have people talking about finer theories of mathematics, but if you just do it this way the answer is clear cut.
     
  14. LCAhmed

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    y=z - x/y
    0=0 -x/0
    0=0 - (x/0)
    cannot divide by 0. Impossible to answer.

    or

    y=z - x/y

    y^2=z-x
    (0x0=0) = 0-x
    0=0-x
    x=0
     
  15. rox1

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    Whatever you say buddy!
     
  16. joesr

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    Really?

    I am only going to a community college but every single math course I have been in, if you are given a value, you plug it in.
     
  17. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Brilliant. IF you want to get around undefined values, just use a variable briefly to get rid of it, then go on with your day.

    Let a=b
    a^2 = ab
    2(a^2) = a^2 + ab
    2(a^2) - 2ab= a^2 + ab - 2ab
    2(a^2 - ab) = a^2 - ab
    2 = 1
     
  18. Jontro

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    Say thread, when you gonna let me tap dat?
     
  19. joesr

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    The "text her when can I tap that" thread is above, LOL
     
  20. iconoclastic

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    I don't think women are that good at math.
     

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