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Massive Teacher Layoffs in Texas - Perry Says State Not to Blame

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ima_drummer2k, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    i wasnt trying to imply it isnt a problem.
     
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    see my sig and be there if ya can
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    if you want to paint detail, use a more fine brush and you should certainly understand your tones.
     
  5. glynch

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    Got to have tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires. Therefore, we need to lay off teachers if we want to be rolled by conservatives trying to use a financial crisis engineered by Wall Street to accomplish their wet dreams.

    It really is that simple.

    Please explain why this is best for the lower 98% of Americans. Have the conservos finally gone too far?
     
  6. glynch

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    Bingo. He has it. Don't forget that the contracts for the newly privatized profit making schools go to cronies of the conservative politicians who push the privitization. They can be counted on to contribute to the politicians campaigns.

    If the conservatibves can play it perfectly the contracts for the profit generating schools will be no bid.
     
  7. leroy

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    I have yet to see a defense for the governor. I'm curious what it could be? Is he so f***ing stupid that he doesn't see the link between state funding of public education and the layoffs?

    My son starts kindergarten in the fall. Just signed him up today. I got to meet some of the teachers. I wonder if any of them will actually be his teacher in the fall. That thought depresses me.

    I love Texas. I f***ing hate what these piece-of-s*** tea bagging morons are doing to her.
     
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    Administrators don't outnumber teachers. From the article: "TEA figures also show, however, that the state's 334,930 teachers made up 50.4 percent of the total education labor force in the state this school year, compared with 274,816 who made up 50.8 percent of all school personnel in the 2000-01 school year."

    The 49.6% that isn't teachers isn't all administrators, either. It's custodians, lunch workers, bus drivers, maintenance people, IT people, etc. as well. I teach at a school with ~2000 kids and there are ~130 teachers with 1 head principal, 2 associate principals, and 4 assistant principals. Granted there some administrators at the district office, but it's still not close to more than the number of teachers.

    Oh, one of the cost saving measures our district is implementing is APs have to pick up 3 substitute jobs a year (or semester, we'll see). I've said for a while the APs need to teach at least a semester-long class every year or every other year as they tend to lose touch a bit after a while. We'll see where things go.

    I don't know how many teachers and paraprofessionals we are going to lose, but losing any will negatively impact students. We have a State of the District address tomorrow that will be given by the superintendent. I'm curious how it's going to go. I predict doom and gloom.

    Opening up the rainy day fund will be a stop-gap measure until we can fix the way schools are funded, but it's a measure that needs to be taken. Texas has weakened education enough already via re-writing history (thankfully the science revisionism didn't take) it doesn't need to finish it off by underfunding to the degree that has been tossed around.

    I wonder how Kinky would have handled this all. Better than Governor Good Hair, I'm sure. He needs to go.
     
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  9. JuanValdez

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    Didn't you see it in the article? It's not his fault if the school districts fire some teachers because of their woefully underfunded budgets. They can just fire all the maintenance workers, sell some buildings, cut off the electricity and rely on ambient light, and maybe make a little side-money pimping out the teachers.
     
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    Ahh the root cause of the issue lies here. People like you who see no value education brings to the living standards for not just the students but for everyone. If you can equate the laying off of an office clerk or mail man that works for the Govt to the laying off of a teacher......we're all doomed.
     
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    He should follow the Wisconsin model. Bust the teacher's union. They all get to keep their jobs get less overpaid. They can fund their own retirement accounts.
     
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    The fact that they haven't had to worry about losing their jobs epitomizes everything wrong with public education.
     
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  13. mclawson

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    Are you familiar with Texas' teacher's unions or unions in Texas in general? Do you know what it means to be a right to work state? It's illegal for teachers to strike in Texas, which makes the unions essentially powerless. They lobby in Austin and have some legal counsel for their members, but they are as powerless a union as you'll find.
     
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    fbisd school board approves 1000 teacher layoffs, meanwhile the superintendent is making a $300,000 salary with over $200,000 in bonus' and hires his 3rd secretary among several other administrators. this 3rd secretary will make $97,000, she also was recently fired from the same state (virginia) the si came from.

    that is just re-god-damn-diculous
     
  15. Commodore

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    A great argument to abolish the public school system.

    So much waste and inefficiency.
     
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    so . . .we trade in Waste and inefficiency
    for Corruption and blatant theft

    Rocket River
     
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    My girlfriend is a teacher and complains about how inefficient teachers in her own science department are. I'd love to teach biology but there's just no positions anymore.
     
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    Actually, it's just a pretty good argument to be upper middle-class and white, and maybe move to New England.
     
  20. Commodore

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    Who is corrupt and thieving?
     

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