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Massive Teacher Layoffs in Texas - Perry Says State Not to Blame

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ima_drummer2k, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    I agree that education for kids should be improved and not reduced, however kids don't have to go to college to have a "livable" wage. Not everyone is cut out for college nor is it needed for all trades
     
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  2. RedRedemption

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    Yes. Ours children's is learnings.
     
  3. ima_drummer2k

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    I read somewhere that lawmakers in Austin, even many Republicans, are more open to tapping into the "rainy day fund" because, you know.....it's raining. But Perry won't have it because he's getting pressure from Grover Norquist and...

    wait for it.......

    the tea party.

    Oh LORD, so I guess laying off teachers left and right is now "the Texas way"... That's great.
     
  4. rhadamanthus

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    I hope they is learning to get the **** out of this state before they're laughed at on college applications.
     
  5. DonkeyMagic

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    yup. all the kids are stupid in texas
     
  6. thadeus

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    Have you seen how Texas compares to the education level in other states?

    Rick Perry has **** all over Texas, and the ideological midgets keep voting for him.

    You ****ed yourselves, morons ... and, unfortunately, you also ****ed the rest of us in the process.

    I work with kids who graduated from Texas high schools. The standards are so low in this state that plenty of barely-literate kids get into the biggest universities. It is a problem, and it is better in most other states.
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    I did not say that. Only an idiot would think what I wrote said or even implied that- hey...did you go to public school in Texas?
     
  8. thadeus

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    Oh ... and I'd be interested to see how many school board administrators actually get laid off in comparison to actual teachers.

    "Administrators" (who don't actually teach) already outnumber teachers in this state - soon, there's gonna be twice as many of them to say, "well, we're gonna have to make tough budget cuts this year - so, uh ... let's increase our pensions and fire some more teachers."
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    It's like, "get off of all lawns and get on the grass. It's the only thing you'll ever have in life."
     
  10. Anticope

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    The War on Education marches on.
     
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    Conservatives distrust academia, because they think it breeds liberals. Our board of education is a joke, because they pander to people who threaten to home school their kids if we teach Darwin.

    In the end we lose, because our ideology doesn't boil down to "Yay God, and Boo Taxes"...at least until we graduate a generation of kids who knows a little about the Good Book and a lot about Standardized Test Taking Strategies....then we realize we just got into a 100 front global economic war armed with a water gun.
     
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    I guess it happens everywhere....but I find it really stupid that staffing levels are determined by budget availability. Wages...sure. But the number of teachers should depend on enrollment.

    I've no idea if enrollment in these districts is up or down, or how Texas compares to other places in terms of teacher/student ratios. I suspect the guys making these decisions don't really care. Bottom line, baby!

    Good luck to our cf.net teachers and/or their teacher spouses. Not fun.
     
  13. Qball

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    Keep em dumb and keep em votin'.......tis' the republican/tea party way.

    btw, at first I was like :mad:
    and then I was like :(
    and now I'm like :grin: (we're so f***ed, it's actually funny)
     
  14. rrj_gamz

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    I remember reading somewhere that this was predicted by the State Comptroller 5 or so years ago when they changed the residential property tax reliance for funding education and switched it to business franchise tax.

    When I saw this I thought I'd be saving a bunch of money on property tax as promoted...that helped the first year but after that it wasn't the case. All the taxing authorities did was raise their tax rates and I'm paying the same $ amount as I did 5 plus years ago.

    Sux for teachers to lose jobs, but education is a business and tough choices have to be made...
     
  15. bnb

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    some might say it's a service ;)
     
  16. Qball

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    Yep, can't have the fastest growing race/culture in Texas becoming more educated now can we. Tough choice indeed...
     
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    Let me clarify, Tough choices on who stays and who goes not education...there is nothing you or I can do about it other than pay more in taxes, which is always popular right?

    Education has always been the "safe haven" just like govt. jobs...but with cuts, decisions being made by elected officials, these safe haven jobs are no more...teachers will be getting unemployment just like tons of other folks, just like me over a year ago...
     
  18. Rocket River

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    All going as planned.

    Step 1: Overregulated the schools to the point where cannot be effective.
    Step 2: Underfund the schools
    Step 3: Demonstrate how unregulated better funded private schools are 'better'
    Step 4: privatize all schools
    Step 5: Remove all regulations off schools and funnel state money into the hands of these private corporations.

    New money Laundering funnelling system initialized.
    See Military and Prisons as an example

    Rocket River
     
  19. rhadamanthus

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    Only they're not being made. Perry has decided to pick on the easy candidates (teachers, the poor, and children) instead of tackling bigger fish like corporate tax rates, increased property taxes, or even *gasp* using the rainy day fund.
     
  20. DonkeyMagic

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    you didnt quantify your statement. If you said, "a lot of kids are going to get laughed at" or something along those lines is fair. But you didn't, you said "they're" which is open for pleny of interpretation and a broad generalization possibility. So, how about you answer your own question about public schools in texas :)
     

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