I can dig the idea. There was something in that thread about I guess somebody from Bioware saying the fans didn't have all the facts. If any of that is true, I hope Bioware does come out at some point in the future and give some clarification. Of course, you shouldn't need the developer to come out and explain the ending. Still Spoiler All 3 endings are the same. If there really was some kind of indoctrination thing going on, then address it in the epilogue. Give us some actual feedback on the choice we made and not show us almost exactly the same thing regardless. Part of me wishes some future DLC would address it, but it might even be worse than the first day DLC if a future DLC factors into the endgame.
That was part of my thinking as well. Spoiler Make him see Kaiden or Ashley, whoever died in ME1. Instead of seeing the kid in the vent, he just sees one of them as he turns his head. Once he realizes what he saw (or thinks he saw) he turns his head back and they're gone. See, right there, that's better than what the writers actually put in there. And yeah, the kid being the catalyst doesn't make any sense unless it's a projection of Shepard's. That's part of what lends credibility to the theory.
Don't be surprised if that's what it comes down to. Bioware has done it before in Dragon age origins with the "witch hunt" dlc.
Not really saying anything specific about the ending, but I'll spoiler this just in case: Spoiler I don't really buy that interpretation of the ending either. Among other problems, it implies BioWare was clever. Given other evidence, I doubt that is true. (I also think it is stupid, maybe even more so than the "regular" endings, if that is the "real" ending...though I can see BioWare claiming something like that given the fan reaction).
Anyone know about how many hours it took to finish ME3? ME1 took me about 39, and ME2 took 34 to complete everything including side missions.
Took me 42+ but I did everything and talked to everybody after every mission. I've heard of people "rushing" through and completing it in 24. ME2 took me 28.
Any ideas when the cheats will be out? :grin: I hate running out of ammo. My shooting ability is similar to Ryan Bowen, so for every 10 bullets, I hit my target about 3-4 times.
Is it definite in ME2 that thane and jack will die if I don't get the upgrades? If so, what is the quickest way to get those upgrades.
Yes it is definite. Just go farm some minerals or do some missions to get credits. Forget what they require but it doesn't take much time at all.
Probably this. No real quick way, you just gotta do some assignments and collect the necessary credits.
So if it says, 15000 platinum (don't remember what it is called) necessary to upgrade, I need to go to the different planets to get it? I really only want to save Thane. I know what I did wrong for Legion.
I think for those minerals, if you do Liara's Shadow Broker DLC... once you finish, there is a computer on the sides of the room where you can purchase information on planets with the highest minerals. That might be worth it. If you don't have it, I think you can download the DLC (pirated) without paying.
Elementium Zero was the hardest to mine if I remember correctly. Just fly to a system and mine planets until they reach moderate. Of course I visited all the planets so having minerals wasn't a problem; I just quit farming whenever I had 100k in reserves. Having the probe/scanner upgrades really makes it go faster. You get a few thousand minerals a probe so it really shouldn't take long.
Thanks bro. repped (you too Jontro). So I should just scan the planets and go to the ones that have the resources. Cool :grin:
lol I wouldn't know. I used cheats for ME2 :grin: Got that 1mil minerals and credits to start with. Glad you did it the right way, though. And why not save Jack, too? I didn't like her much and she's an eyesore, but I hear she's a badass in ME3.
The Hallucination Theory thread in the bioware forums is over 320 pages now and a lot of the evidence really makes sense if you look at all the clues and logic holes. Here's a compiled list somebody just posted: Spoiler Full Comprised List of Evidence for New Comers: 1) The Theory isn't "Shepard has always been indoctrinated since the beginning of ME3". Its "Harbinger is attempting to indoctrinate Shepard AFTER Shepard is hit by the beam". 2) The moment Shepard wakes up, Coats reports that nobody made it to the Conduit, yet Shepard is walking towards it. 3) Depending on your EMS, you'll either see your squadmates dead (low) or not there (high). 4) Despite that area being completely destroyed, there are three trees in the area. 5) You have unlimited ammo through the game, even when you're at the Citadel and there's nothing to shoot at. 6) Shepard's Gun = Shepard's Willpower 7) Once you're inside the Citadel, Anderson says he followed you in. Yet, he gets to the console first and if he did indeed follow you in, why did he not report to Coats that Shepard and him are heading inside? 8) All the dead bodies have the same face and are bald. 9) Anderson notes that the walls are moving. Recall back to the Derelict Reaper in ME2. If you listened to the logs, the scientists noted that they had shared memories, the walls moved, things appeared, etc. It can also be noted that Anderson says "it's dark like the Collector base". 10) Parts of the citadel look like parts from the Shadow Broker base. 11) You may have noticed "1M1" on a part of the Citadel. To your left, it's "1M1". To your right, it's reversed/mirrored. "1M1" is also a part of optics. 12) Illusive Man appears out of nowhere. 13) There are "oily, black" lines around the screen whenever the indoctrinated Illusive Man speaks or does something significant. 14) Despite the Citadel being closed, you can see cars driving in the back ground. 15) If you choose the Paragon route, Illusive Man will commit suicide a la Saren style. 16) Hackett talks to the Commander while on the Citadel... but it was reported that no one made it. So how did Hackett know Shepard was in the Citadel? 17) When lifted up, the Starchild is a "ghostly presence". 18) Depending on your EMS, the Starchild will either say an angry "Why are you here?" (low) or a calm, yet commanding "Wake Up" (high). 19) The Starchild's voice is a mixture of MaleShep, FemShep, and the child's VA. Some claim you can also hear Harbinger. 20) The Starchild puts emphasis on how bad that Destroy ending will be by noting that you would kill synthetic life, including the Geth. He also mentions that Shepard is partially synthetic, implying you will die as well. 21) The Starchild will hesitate his answer when Shepard asks "And the Reapers will obey me?". He pauses for 2 seconds and then says "Yes". 22) The Starchild will say that Synthesis is the final stage of evolutionary life. This is what the Reapers always wanted. 23) By choosing Control or Synthesis, Shepard will die regardlessly. This means Shepard lost and he is fully indoctrinated. 24) Control's color is blue (Paragon) while Destroy's color is red (Renegade). Harbinger is tricking not Shepard, but the PLAYER that Control is the good ending. 25) Destroy ending is the only ending where Shepard is alive/wakes up. 26) The Normandy scene is a way for Shepard to imagine that the people closest to him are okay and that they landed on a sunny, lush planet, filled with necessary things to sustain life. Many crewmembers through out ME2 and ME3 have said they would have wanted to go somewhere "sunny" or to a "beach" (yes, there's a beach on that planet). 27) Shepard wakes up back on London because the Citadel wasn't made out of concrete. You can also hear the wind in the background. There is no wind in space or the Citadel. 28) James Vega at one point mentions "Do you hear that humming noise? Or is that just me?". EDI will also says that the Normandy still have the Reaper IFF. 29) The Dreams will get more and more details as the story progresses. At first, it's just the child you're following. The second one has whispers and "oily, black, ghostly" figures. The third one has more ghostly, black figures and more whispers. In my playthrough, I heard Liara's and Kaidan's whispers, saying "Shepard". The final one ends with Shepard hugging/embracing the kid, smiling as they both get burned. 30) Shepard has been more exposed to Reapers and Reaper tech than anyone else on the squad. 31) Notice how no one notices the child throughout the game. No one helps him get on the shuttle and Anderson doesn't ask Shepard what Shepard was doing. 32) A scared child wouldn't say "You can't help me". They would say "Help!", "Save me!", and/or "I'm scared!". 33) When Shepard turns away from the child in the beginning, you can hear a growl. In the ME Novels, Paul Grayson would hear growls when he snapped out of it. The growl is a different sound than what Reapers normally make. 34) The kid disappears in the duct, with no noise or anything. 35) In the ME artbook, the child is "the face of humanity of one that Shepard couldn't save". In a way, the Reapers (or Harbinger) is using the child to taunt Shepard, saying he cannot save them. In ME2, both throughout the main campaign and Arrival DLC, Harbinger said it is inevitable that Shepard will lose. 36) Notice how Harbinger barely speaks in ME3, yet he was a huge role in ME2. You only see Harbinger for a good minute, but he flies away when you wake up. The Child is actually Harbinger, playing on Shepard's emotion to show how weak Shepard is and that he will fail. 37) The reason why Harbinger didn't kill Shepard or force him to choose Control or Synthesis is because Shepard is still resisting. Harbinger then tries another tactic: Persuasion. 38) Indoctrinate has been a huge role throughout the ME universe. However, it is more prominent in ME3. 39) If you choose Control or Synthesis, look at Shepard's eyes. They will turn exactly like Illusive Man's and Saren's. Thus, Shepard has been indoctrinated. Makes damn sense to me.
