RIP Chadwick the movie doesn’t waste any time at all getting into a tribute for Chadwick Boseman and mourning the loss of the Black Panther…not even 5 minutes in, and some dude was sniffling behind me…C’mon man, pull yourself together! There was some sniffling and “awws” at the end from the audience when a young boy is introduced as well I thought Namor and the Atlanteans as a whole were excellent…I really liked them going in this Mayan direction and not doing some Aquaman rip off…Namor had an ominous presence every time he was on screen…I loved him I didn’t know anything about Riri Williams. Some might think that what she was pulling off was a stretch, but I guess her level of genius is consistent with the comics? Idk she was just ok for me this actor Tenoch Huerta was a great casting call for the roll…I checked his movie catalog, and his last movie was the Forever Purge, but I didn’t even recognize that he was the same actor from that movie…talk about moving on up because that movie was TRASH the initial attack on Wakanda was crazy good and showed just how powerful and dangerous he and his people are Shuri goes through a lot the 1st 2 acts were a 10/10 for me, I was loving every minute and invested…some very serious moments, some nice comedic moments, and some action mixed in the final act brings this down to a 8.5/10…this movie was 2 hrs 45 minutes, but I didn’t feel the run time, and would definitely watch this again I think I actually enjoyed this more than the 1st one…the 1st 2 acts were that strong for me Killmonger was great in the 1st BP movie, but Namor was damn good as well
Good to hear. I have somewhat stopped watching marvel stuff. Didn’t watch the new spider man yet. New Thor. Ms Marvel she hulk moon guy show. I guess the last I watched was scarlet witch, which was good in my opinion. I want to see this though
I thought Angela Bassett was great as Queen Ramonda Angela Bassett is 64 out here aging like the finest of wines enjoyed Winston Duke again too
This movie was both good and bad. Good: + Lupita is fine as hell. Ditto Angela Bassett. + "Tribute" of sorts to T'Challa / Chadwick at the start of the movie, and the movie moves forward, with 2-3 moments of introspection throughout. Very well done, very tastefully done. + Horror movie vibes when Namor's army was first introduced. There's just something about the darkness of the sea that's scary af + The action sequences! Really felt like an MCU budget was used. Bad: - Are we supposed to care about Talokan or its people? None of Namor's people really had any personality. - The kinship between Namor and Shuri felt pretty forced. There was zero reason, after capturing Shuri, to show her Talokan or let her know of its existence. Nor give her a bracelet, which turned out to be a plot device. - Namor's boneheaded actions Spoiler Why does he feel anything towards Wakanda and its people? Just because his mother told him stories of how it was a good place? Dude steps into Wakanda and is immediately threatened by a woman (the queen) holding a spear and has no positive interactions with the country...and he thinks highly of it? Fast forward. How are you going to announce that you're giving a technologically advanced society a whole ass week to prepare for you and your army? I get arrogance and all that, but just like Wakanda has never fought against another entity with vibranium powers, I doubt Talokan has either. God or not, Namor should have been wary of Wakanda and the Black Panther. You shouldn't have given them any time, whatsoever. Impose your will as a God. Don't give opponents any time. But whatever. Plot. So after Namor invades Wakanda and the battle starts, you're NOT going to try and kill/capture Shuri, quite possibly the smartest person in Wakanda? Nor Riri, another incredibly smart person who you wanted Wakanda to help you capture, in the first place? I get plot armor and all that, but incapacitating Shuri -> no chance of heart-shaped herb -> no chance of Black Panther popping up -> Wakanda falls. It's that simple. - The final battle at sea Spoiler The Talokan people literally had miles and miles of home field advantage because the ship is surrounded by water...yet they opted to try and fight the Wakandans on their one singular ship? BRUH. Bomb the engines and take the one ship out of commission. And let Namor take out the air support. Every single Wakandan on that boat now becomes a sitting duck. You have weapons, you have sea animals and you have an abundance of time. You have every single advantage just by bombing the ship and then waiting...yet you jump onto the ship to fight them?? You can then just drag Shuri into the water and have Namor + army destroy her. Would have been an overwhelming victory.
Not going to lie and not going to be rude. But I have to question whether you even watched this movie with some of your takes. Every point you made makes no sense. Namors feelings toward Wakanda were due to it’s ability to keep Talokan safe. He knew he needed them to protect its people. That is a very explainable point to any issue you had with the film. In regards to sitting ducks. Did you not see the final result. That’s truly what they were.
you can’t just make your rebuttal without dishing spoilers breh. i need to know this before i go see it
Boy this movie was so bad. Reading some of the other reviews in here, I am wondering if we saw the same film. Coattails of a deadman for sure. Outside of No Way Home, these last 7+ Marvel flicks have been complete garbage.
LMAO!! I'm going to be rude, because your takes are just so stupid. Also, like another poster said, you should really spoiler your stuff. Spoiler Bruh, get out of here with your "Wakanda keeps Talokan safe" bs. If that were true, there would be no reason for Namor to just now surface and meet with the Wakandan people to try and establish a connection or treaty or any sort of dealing. He would have tried to be diplomatic with them long, long ago. Either with T'Challa, T'Chaka or any other Black Panther before. If Namor depended on Wakanda to keep his people safe, why would he then wage war on Wakanda and seek to destroy his "protector?" By doing so, this means that he and Talokan didn't actually need the "protection" that Wakanda offers. Think about it - if you could easily beat up and/or kill your bodyguard, what's the point of having that specific bodyguard? Last point about this: Talokan was only ever in danger BECAUSE of Wakanda and its vibranium. The world knows Wakanda has vibranium -> Wakanda doesn't want to share -> the world becomes overzealous and gets too close to Talokan's vibranium as a result of trying to seek out Wakanda's vibranium -> rest of the plot of the movie. Yeah, they were sitting ducks, but that's because of the terrible decision made by Shuri, Wakandan's supposed new protector just because she drank some synth herb and put on a suit. Lol?? In the movie, she started off her detailed battle plan by declaring to fight on open water (an uninhabited part of the ocean). If I was the Dora Milaje or anyone with military experience, I would immediately try to shut all that down. You're literally playing into the opponent's hands - an opponent that has an army, has vibranium and has Namor. Shuri has similar resources, but her army has never fought on water or fought another opponent with vibranium. Imagine saying every point I made, made no sense, and then only talking about one point. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by listing out negatives of the movie, but you literally explained nothing.
Your whole issue with the movie was failing to understand the anti heroes motive. No big deal if you don't like it. Really doesn't bother me, but I just find it funny you are going to nitpick something that was right in front of your face for 2 hours and 40 minutes.
Among superhero movies released in the pandemic era, Sony and Marvel’s Spider-Man: No Way Home opened to $260.1 million in December 2021. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness opened to $187.4 million in early May of this year, while Thor: Love and Thunder scored $144.2 million in July (both were from Marvel/Disney). In March 2022, DC and Warner Bros.’ The Batman flew to $134 million in its launch. More recently, DC’s Black Adam, starring Dwayne Johnson in his first live-action superhero role, opened to a more subdued $67 million domestically. Black: Panther: Wakanda Forever is off to a strong start at the box office, posting the 10th-highest opening day in history. Marvel's Black Panther sequel earned $84 million on its first day at the box office, raising its opening weekend projections as high as $185 million. The film is achieving those numbers despite its 2 hours 41 minutes runtime. Critics and fans alike approve of Wakanda Forever. The film has an 84% certified fresh score on Rotten Tomatoes and a 95% audience approval rating. The film's critical consensus on the site reads, "A poignant tribute that satisfyingly moves the franchise forward, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever marks an ambitious and emotionally rewarding triumph for the MCU.
Nitpick? I've already explained in detail why it was such an issue. You were completely disagreeable and offered some random theory about protection to try and explain stuff - a theory which made no sense. Again, if Namor and Talokan Spoiler depended on Wakanda, then there'd be no reason to surface only so recently. Then invade your "protector's" country. Then declare that you're coming back in a week to pillage the whole damn place. It's illogical to bite the hand that feeds, feather serpent God or not. Namor only wanted Wakanda's help to find Riri because he didn't want the world to know about Talokan's existence. That's the only reason why Namor made himself known to Wakanda, and why he told Ramonda / Shuri never to speak of his and Talokan's existence to anyone else. Literally nothing about the movie had to do with Wakanda being Talokan's protector. You're claiming I must not have watched the movie. With your weird take out of left field, I can claim the same thing about you, to be honest.
ngl I expected more from the end credits. Spoiler I love that T'Challa had a son who will one day assume the throne. And Shuri will probably let him just take the mantle. Very wholesome Marvel Game of Thrones. But I thought maybe we'd see something about Kang or how Riri meets Ned and MJ at MIT or something...just something that reminds us Wakanda Forever is part of the MCU and not seemingly, a standalone movie.
the end credits had already been spoiled for me heading in, so I already knew what to expect thought this movie was a great close to what I consider a lackluster Phase 4...still haven't seen Eternals or the last Thor movie tho
100% agree the drama was good and the acting was very well done. The action was sparse and could have been better. I agree the angle they took with him seems like an effort to differentiate from Aquaman and that Atlantis. Spoiler I never knew Namor was considered a mutant until I saw him listed that way in the Marvel Strike Force mobile game. Cool that they dropped that in there. Also I’m not sure if the origination of his name as described in the movie is consistent with the comic.
doubt I'll ever watch Eternals lol, and I just haven't had the motivation to sit down and watch that Thor movie...it's an "I might watch it 1 day on a long flight" movie for me
I gave it 4 stars. It was good enough to see again eventually.. Maybe it's me ( in fact I'm sure it is just me), but the RiRi character just seems so corny. The suit, the " let's go" chant, everything about her made me cringe.. I never liked Iron Man so maybe that's it.. I have questions regarding a few storylines but I'll talk to my Marvel nerd homie tonight.. lol
