Martin knows he must get in the flow of Rockets’ offense

I posted this in the other thread, but a key for Martin's familiar offense is Patrick Patterson's playing time:

PatPat is the the only big remaining from Adelman's scheme who is savvy enough to make the high post passes (excluding Scola who is the often times the spacer/shooter/rebounder).

The corner set will definitely be seen this season, and PatPat will run it effectively. I don't think Jordan, Thabeet and certainly newbie Dalembert are not familiar enough with the passes that would need to be made, so we'd see more inside-outside ball with them on the court.

The ship will right itself as more games are played. The offense won't be as smooth as last year, but it'll be effective once the staff figure out the right plays for our players' skill set, and the players fully learn the plays. This will certainly take time. Probably till late Feb/early March at the earliest.

 

The shooting was not the problem, he has had bad shooting night, the problem was his lack of trying on defense. He looked depressed out there and let something get to him: might be the change of offense, not getting enough touches, not making shots, who knows. Let's just calm down and see if he can bounce back Thursday.

 

if he shot a little bit more decently we might've been able to steal that game

 

People who blame McHale's offense obviously don't remember when Adelman took over for JVG. He tried to make a ton of changes, failed at many of them, before finding a right balance. If you go back 4 years GARM was basically filled with people blaming Adelman for screwing up his players, most notably putting Yao at the high post and Yao sucking as a result. Coaches and players all need to adjust to new personnel. This is part of the process. People forget that "Adelman offense" that we saw the past two years are a product of almost entirely new personnel group. And that it evolved over years. It doesn't just mesh overnight.

Martin strikes me as a smart guy. I'm sure that like all scorers he has his comfort zone, and I'm sure McHale's way of doing things has made him uncomfortable. But in the end they're professionals and they should work things out. McHale needs to find ways to get KMart ways to score efficiently. And KMart needs to adjust his game to get in sync with McHale's different type of offense.

I know some people talked about how our new offense is crap iso. Well, to be fair what kind of offense can you have with such a short preseason coming off of a lockout? It's not exactly easy to add wrinkles here and there when there's no time to practice. It would've been chaos if they tried anything complicated.

tl;dr version: Give it time. If it's still not fixed by mid-season, then there should be accountability either on KMart or McHale or both. Until then, let them work out the kinks.

 

If Martin doesn't shoot at least 6 FTs the next game, we have a problem.

 

Not to argue, but most of us expected no changes, since we are essentially the same team. For your reasons above, I thought McHale wouldn't make changes. Did the loss of Hayes (and his 27mpg) really disrupt the Adelman offense so much that he had to install something new?

My guess is he is simplifying as a plan to give minutes to the 2009ers and Morris...since they don't know Adelman's system. So McHale simplifies, even though the starters, Lee, Dalembert, PatPat and Dragic could probably play the same system as last year out of the gate.

Not so sure dumbing it down is the best way to teach for the future.

Maybe we underestimate how great of a teacher Adelman is, and that his offensive coaching abilities are not easy to teach to young players. So, McHale has to go back to basics, partly because he can't teach a system like Adelman can, and on top of that Mchale knows he is handicapped with less practice time.

Does dumbing it down = tanking? We might be in for an ugly year.

 

My guess is that we shouldn't guess any coach's philosophy after one game. Because one game does not a philosophy make. Adelman didn't truly implement his system until year 3, when Yao, T-Mac, Artest all disappeared and Morey infused an almost totally new group of core players.

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You do remember Adelman trying to implement his offense when we had Yao, Battier, Hayes, and T-Mac in our starting lineup, right? I don't know what an offensive genius Adelman is, but his teaching skills weren't able to penetrate some of the highest BBIQ players the Rockets have had the past decade.

 

People think Chuck was just about defense. He will be a huge loss in running our offense. I still dont understand why Rox didnt appreciate Chucks value.

Thabeet should have been amnestied.

 

That is true. This whole league is plaything like crap right now. I've watched 9 games so far and every one of then has been very ugly, scrum basketball with guys fumbling and bumbling around and chasing the basketball like it's a greased pig.

And us fans still paying full price for tickets.

 

I agree. I'm not really guessing his "philosophy," I'm just referring to the comments in the article about changes. How Martin feels out of sorts and McHale says they need to figure it out.

I was talking about Adelman's players are still here. McHale can choose to keep Adelman's system or make changes. I"m fine either way. It is interesting to watch both Adelman's system and a new coach changing things. I'm OK with that. As I said, I'm not arguing, so please don't try to pigeon-hole this discussion.

Adelman came into a JVG system. We know; it takes him awhile to implement a system; although Minnesota is already running it pretty noticeably--maybe that's why he picked them, because he knew they could learn fast. Part of Adelman arriving here was to win immediately. That JVG team was already good (versus Minnesota), so his philosophy is to go more slowly towards change on a 50 win team--specifically slowly to make any changes to TMac and Yao's role. That is what Adelman said and did. Yes, we all remember.

 

Maybe he just wanted to play bad against Orlando to help prevent a Gasol, Bynum, Scola, Martin mega trade.

 

Eh, it's just the first game. He just needs more time to practice with his new coach and system I think.

The team overall just needs more time to gel as a unit and move the ball better to get a feel for where everyone will be the most successful.

 

Exxaaccttllyy

 

At least, Martin is manning up about his poor performance. That gives me hope that he isn't mailing it in this season.

 

I really hope he gets it together... Or else my Martin jersey will join my Artest jersey in the back corner of my closet.

 

He was highly valued. It's just that our Gasol/Nene plan fell through.

 

Better sell it now while you still can. He doesn't fit this team any more.

 

k mart can bounce back. this article is changing my opinion of his terrible game.

 

I'm a Martin fan. I think he'll bounce back once he adjust his game. Martin's best years have been under Rick Adelman so he needs time to adjust a bit more. He'll be fine.