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mario vs. bush

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Bag0b0y, Sep 9, 2007.

  1. Hey Now!

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    well, first of all, bush's 1-yard run WAS a component of speed - he beat thornton to the edge. he's certainly not the only player capable of doing it, but it was a perfect example of what he can provide and was, in and of itself, impressive. i don't think, for instance, green or dayne beat thornton.

    overall, bush has been... slightly below average. but 1,300 yards from scrimmage as the back-up RB isn't blair thomas-like, either. i definitely think some of the hype obscured a lot of information. for instance, i was pro-bush. but i never thought he'd be an every down back and i don't think the texans ever saw him as that, either; part of my support for him, in fact, came from the idea of teaming him with domanick davis to become a potent 1-2 punch.

    where i think i and a lot of others missed on him is how 1-dimensional he's been - we all knew he was best in space, but he's shown very little ability to run between the tackles and while speed is nice, it's not a difference maker near the line of scrimmage. also, he is, imo, being hurt by a truly awful, out of synch saint offense. when you're a change of pace back, and the starting pace is bad...

    it's going to be fascinating to watch him be the lead back the rest of this year.
     
  2. macalu

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    you know, i'm getting tired of that as well. no one in the national media thought the Texans should have taken VY. it was all Bush, Bush, Bush. now in hindsight, they're acting like that should have been the choice all along.
     
  3. updawg

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    Thats very true.
     
  4. ima_drummer2k

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    I was talking about his other 1-yard TD run. The one where they were between the hash marks and Bush ran it right up the middle. That's the one Kornheiser commented on about his speed. It was on the replay right before the commercial.

    Who says he can't run between the tackles? LOL.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    ahhhhh... sorry; i only saw his one run, which, btw, came after he dropped a wide-open TD pass.
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

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    so long as there is a huge hole.


    yup. just shows how much they believe their own garbage about players. Anyone, from texas at least, knew VY was the man.
     
  7. ima_drummer2k

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    That's OK. It's easy to get all of his 1-yard runs mixed up.
     
  8. Achilleus

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    I predict that Bush will have a whale of a season from this point forward...

    Seventeen touchdowns / four yards a carry / ten yards a reception
     
  9. tulexan

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    Maybe when he is playing Madden.
     
  10. HillBoy

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    I can understand not wanting to be ridiculed but the onus for this has to go to Kubiak and Co.. They had to know what the national reaction would be to a 2-14 team using the first pick in the 2006 draft to pass on more highly rated players for a guy who was (and still is) a project player. It's nothing personal - it's just the way things are which is why all of the national giggling never bothered me one iota.

    Ultimately it doesn't matter how badly RB or VY plays because it will still be up to Mario to show enough on the field to prove all of those "smug ***holes wrong. His level of play will silence all of the snickering. He has to better his pass rushing technique because right now, he's bull rushing himself right out of too many plays which is why he's so inconsistent. He had a very good first game and has been just another guy in the past 2 games which unfortunately is the knock on him. The ball's in his court...
     
  11. Desert_Rocket

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    Bush scored 2 TD's yesterday. Most on this forum point to stats when talking abou Bush (YPC, etc...). 2 TDs in One game isn't too shabby. Especially when your offensive line is THAT bad. Brees couldn't do anything back there. The Saints O-line is the worst in football.

    Also, on punt returns, the Titans punted away from Bush. They wanted no part of him. He does have the ability to break games. I wouldn't call him a bust like some of you are doing. The guy can play. We will see what he does now that Deuce is out, but with that O-line, probably not much between the tackles.

    The one thing that has surprised me about Bush is that he goes down easy, first hit and he's down. I thought he was stronger (Benched what the linebackers were benching at the combine). Can't explain it.
     
  12. BMoney

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    Reuben Droughns had two touchdowns yesterday, for what it's worth. The "next Gayle Sayers" better get you more than 2.5 yards a carry.So far, Reggie Bush is Eric Metcalf with more commercials.
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    It's Reggie's time to put up or shut up - his team is 0-3, his stats suck, and his competition at RB is out for the season ~ this is when the great ones make their mark.

    We will soon see if the hype is for real.
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    uhmmm.... a) teams that draft with even half an ounce of concern for national reaction are teams i want nothing to do with; b) stop acting like mario williams was projected to be even a mid-first rounder. this has been said countless times, but he was going to STILL be drafted ahead of baby vince regardless what the texans did; he was just as highly rated as anyone else.
     
  15. CriscoKidd

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    It isn't anything to write home about when you get tds from the 1 yard line. Those are supposed to be gimmies. The 2 tds meant he had a good fantasy game. But anyone who watched the game would know he stunk it up royally.


    I can explain it. The dude is a p***y. Prefers to dance rather than to try to break some tackles.

    I am one of those people who thought he was comparable to westbrook. I thought he would be a rich man's westbrook though, and I have a high opinion of westbrook. Boy was I ever wrong. He isn't half the rb that westbrook is, although he certainly has the raw talent.
     
  16. ico4498

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    Texans' fans should tattoo this mantra on their fav display area ...

    it'll still be wrong but at least its a convenient method to identify those truly committed to being wrong. btw, points a and b are contradictory.
     
  17. Master Baiter

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    It was common knowledge way before the draft that Mario was going to NO if we drafted Bush instead.

    I can't believe we still have this bull**** going on.
     
  18. Icehouse

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    Yeah....really out of excuses now....he needs to produce....
     
  19. ico4498

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    imo, the conclusion of who was the better player was wrong, however derived.

    time will tell, but if VY cements his lead. the "common knowledge" theory will be uncommonly silly.
     
  20. Master Baiter

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    The "common knowledge" is not a theory, junior. NO was going to pick MW over Jesus, JUST LIKE THEY DID. So you can talk about how silly it is all you want, Your Lord and Savior was never in a millionty years ever going higher than the 3rd pick.
     

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