Why would you say that. Parsons could develop a 3 point shot like Lowry. He's not offensively inept like Ryan Bowen.
Really??... If you combined Bud with Parsons you would have the perfect role playing SF. Parsons - Facilitator, solid defender Bud- 3 point threat
What? you are combining the qualities of two players to compare to one player? If you combine Morris with Parsons > Bud. If you combine Morris with Bud > Parsons. Neither Bud, Parson or Morris fit your definition of the SF. You can't deny that. So your critique of Morris based on prototype definition is a moot point. Point is: there is a chance Morris will be the starter over either one day, independent of your prototype SF definition, which doesn't describe Bud or Parsons.
Yeah, I wasn’t saying that Morey thought Markieff was better, but they did say if Phoenix scooped up Marcus, then Morey would just take Markieff. It didn’t sound like Marcus was someone Morey had targeted to fill a void at the 3 so much that he would have tried hard to move up that one spot for. But thanks for letting me know what Morey had said on the radio, I hadn’t heard that. I think posters want Marcus to be a 3 because of the notion that he doesn’t have the size, rebounding, and defense to dominate as a starting 4. He does, however, have the size to dominate as a power 3, so this would be more ideal. He is most definitely a skilled player, though, so if it ends up he’s more of a 4, it’s no big deal; he’s not going to be a bust, but you’d like to get a starter from a lottery pick.
That's another thing, he's very much a tweener. He could play either small forward or power forward, but slightly better at power than small forward. Strangely, like Rashard Lewis, who started out as a traditional small forward and moved to power forward. Lewis was a good offensive player, but what did him in Seattle and Orlando. He wasn't a versatile defender or a particularly good at rebounds and dirty work. He had some troubles keeping up against some forwards and guards with deadly speed, while not really being able to guard a versatile power forward or forward with strong post game. Though, unlike Morris, he's not really a post player. Honestly, watching a little of Morris in college, maybe an ok version of David West. Good post game, nice jump shot, and average on defense. I wouldn't say he would've been as good as David West (or better), because he hadn't been matched up against NBA caliber players, yet. Putting him at small forward doesn't necessarily hurt his game, but at the same time I think you could find a player more suited to start at small forward than Morris. Again, I'm not saying he's a bad player or pick, but I wouldn't necessarily figure him to be a go-to player or 2nd/3rd option. THough, he has a chance to be a good to serviceable forward. I do not see why that would be a bad thing.
Like, Rashard Lewis, I think he could be really good in the right situation. Though on this team, I'm not so sure with him being next to two bad defenders in Scola and Martin, while I just don't think he's a go to player from what I've seen. Which is not a bad thing at all, for a mid first round draft pick. If he were drafted in top 5, then maybe I could raise the expectations in that department. Moreover, there are reasons he was 14th in draft vs. 9th or 8th, as other teams figured those into the equation and passed on him.
Except that he is not as good as the current options? Is that reason good enough or do we not trust our coaches to put the best players on the court?
I think just because Parsons is more NBA ready than Morris, this isn't a knock on Morris. Parsons kinda fits into what we are doing because all he really does is hustle/garbage man stuff. Those guys are generally ready to play guys and aren't really crucial to the offensive execution. Meanwhile, a guy like Morris, has a very unique offensive skillset and would be a major part of the offense. His skills need to be refined and he needs to learn the system before he can be a good part of it. I really think people try to over simplify the game/process sometimes.
I like how people are already hating on Morris when he has done nothing to deserve it. Let's wait until he gets some PT in the nba before we make judgements. A
I agree with this absolutely. Morris may indeed have the most upside and he may be the starter at some point but maybe he is just not ready yet. Parsons might just be what he is right now thats all. Well said. repped.
Do you know who I hate? Our 2012 pick! That guy has proven NOTHING in the NBA, and he's had 20 years to do so! If he's so great, why is he still in college? Budding star? I submit that he is NOT!
I also think it is because they want Morris to work on his SF game, and it is best to let him do that on the Vipers first. Parsons is playing his natural position, and Morris (while he says SF is his natural position) is being asked to do things that he didn't do at Kansas. Give him reps with the Vipers to get him comfortable...seems reasonable to me.
It's one thing to hate on someone, but it is another thing to say a player going to compare to a future hall of famer.
Lowry/Dragic Martin/Lee/Dragic Marcus/Parsons/Budinger Scola/Patterson Bear/Patterson We have one too many SF.
I'm pretty sure it'll be dealt with by the trade deadline. I wouldn't worry too much about it. One or more of our forwards will likely be traded in a package to improve the team.
I agree. And Morey has said that he sees the d-league as the NBA's version of baseballs minor league system. Send them down and let them get some reps and work on their game. Beats the hell of of riding the bench night in and night out.
I think DM would love to see Marcus win the starting SF position and Parsons develop some semblance of an offensive game so he would not have to worry about paying Bud once his current contract is over. Bud's next contract will likely not be as orginizationaly friendly.
Bad job explaining where I was going with that. Basically just saying that those two guys have positive qualities to contribute in the lineup as a wing player that plays next to the main scoring option. Obviously it would be nice to combine qualities, but you catch my drift. I just think that people on here are so eagar to think Morris a SF, but you have to realize that you might be taking him away from the post where he might carve himself out a nice career. So dont freak out when the coaches start playing him in the post. If he can play the power 3 then thats great, but its likely that other wing players will get more minutes at the 3 for defensive purposes. Morris needs to be careful that he doesn't develop a TWill syndrome when likening himself to a frachise player. I love that he wants to be great, but do what it takes to be a role player first. Of course he's got great "potential" but so do most NBA lottery picks. However, I think he's going to be just fine. He's a tough Philly kid who works his tail off. He's going to do just fine as a PF or SF.
dobro1229, yeah, OK, I see where you went with that. You're saying both Parson's and Bud's game has proven to fit in McHale's system. But you are wondering if the power SF game can fit within the current system and rotation. Yeah, that's a good question.
