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March 4 Primaries (TX, OH, VT, RI)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by weslinder, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. Deckard

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    I thought the DailyKos method of counting the Texas caucus votes was a bit disingenuous. All those people already voted, so they are being counted twice. Why? Because it adds to Barack's total vote count. He doesn't need that. He's got a substantial lead already. I just thought that was a bit lame.



    Impeach Bush.
     
  2. mc mark

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    two nuggets of early exit --

    - More Mississippi Voters Think Obama Is Qualified To Be Commander-In-Chief.

    - Obama voters appear to like Hillary better than Hillary voters like Obama. And they want him to pick Hillary as a running mate.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Caucus results today give Obama the win in Texas--

     
  4. El_Conquistador

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    Obama wins Mississippi along strict racial voting lines...

    I thought this guy was about 'bringing people together'? Hardly.
     
  5. Desert_Rocket

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    He also won Iowa.
     
  6. mc mark

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    The vote was very clearly split among racial lines. That's obvious. Read it and weep, fans of Hussein Obama, the Middle East's choice for Pres.

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/livecoverage/2008/03/obama_strongly_favored_in_miss.html

    There was little doubt that the Illinois senator would prevail in a southern state with a large African American electorate. Voters in Mississippi divided starkly along racial lines, according to exit polls cited by the Associated Press. Roughly 90 percent of black voters backed Obama while roughly seven in ten white voters went for Clinton, the AP noted.


    So whites voted for Hillary, blacks for Obama -- both in landslide totals. If that trend holds, Obama supporters need to hold on to their Ferrarro's because Pennsylvania is going to HURT.
     
  8. Major

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    But only stupid people (you?) believe those trends are relevant to Pennsylvania. The "trend" is no more than the trend from three days ago when Obama won white voters in Wyoming.

    Kerry won 14% of white voters in 2004 in Mississippi, by the way, and 90% of black voters.
     
  9. Major

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    So, in the last 8 days, we've had 6 more states vote. Net changes?

    Obama gained a net of about 4-5 pledged delegates out of 415 delegates in those states. 566 are left in the remaining 10 states.

    In terms of pledged delegates, going into March 4th, she was down by 163 with 981 delegates left to make up that ground. Now, she's down about 168, with just 566 left. In terms of superdelegates - the other part of her comeback strategy - Obama gained 7 superdelegates since March 4th, while Clinton gained 0.

    It's funny to see how the perception is that she's on a comeback.
     
  10. Cohen

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    Why waste your time?
     
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    I agree with you but Pennsylvania will have a big say on perceptions of both candidates next month, no matter who leads in delegates.

    I said this in another thread and I'll say it here: I smell 2004 all over again. Despite being in a big time position of strength, the Dems are going to blow this presidential election and lose to McCain. The nastiness is getting so intense that it will NOT blow over completely.

    I predict the Dems will once again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's both sad and comical what's going on now. I won't be heartbroken because they probably don't deserve to have the presidency and both houses of congress. They are choking on their "presumed" electoral prosperity by turning on each other with gusto even though the election hasn't happened yet.
     
  12. Major

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    Very good question.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

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    Major, here is a good question: would you please donate $10 to Clutch? Is the 8 years you have spent entertaining yourself on this site not worth $10 to you?
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Are you going to keep derailing threads every time you can't hold your own in an argument?

    Please stop, and if you really feel the need to talk about this, then start a thread in hangout about it. This is not related to this thread, nor to any others in D&D.
     
  15. mc mark

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    A solid 25 point win by Obama last night. And a net gain of 8 to 10 delegates. Along with Obama taking the lead in Texas delegates, it's getting harder and harder for Hillary to make the case she deserves the nominee.
     
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    You are clearly forgetting the Tonya Harding strategy. All options are always on the table for hellwhory!
     
  17. A_3PO

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    Making a case for herself is a secondary goal. Tearing Obama down is goal #1 because it's a lot easier and has the same effect of moving her closer to snagging this thing at the end.
     
  18. mc mark

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    And that is why she is losing.
     
  19. A_3PO

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    It's the reason she survived TX and OH. It isn't necessarily a winning strategy but, at a minimum, she loses slower. That's the short term goal.
     
  20. Achilleus

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    "There ain't no party like a Clinton party..."

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