If Hillary gets the nomination, it will be 4 more years of a Republican administration. Hillary will never pull enough independents to win (unless McCain has one of his temper tantrums). McCain isn't bad at all, I've always liked him (and war-dodger Bush's treatment of him in the past really pissed me off). I'm just tired of arrogant Republican foreign policy, but I would take that any day over another Hillbilly administration. The Hillary facade is totally driven by advisors. She's too harsh? Suddenly she's crying at the tip of a hat. Here's the real hillary (that will show up again if she ever gains the throne): # "Where is the G-damn f**king flag? I want the G-damn f**king flag up every f**king morning at f**king sunrise." # "You sold out, you mother f**ker! You sold out!" # "F**k off! It's enough that I have to see you ****-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut." # "If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!" # "Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!" # "Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?" # "Where's the miserable c*ck sucker? # "Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!" # "A right-wing network was after his presidency ... including perverting the Constitution." # "Son of a b****." # "What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!" # "I mean, you've got a conservative and right-wing press presence with really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum." (Media) # "We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices ... Government has to make those choices for people" You can gauge the veracity of these quotes here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hildabeast.asp Under the Clinton years, I remember the constant scandals and the slick-willy whitehouse would immediately start spinning... calling everyone else a liar and trying to destroy them but it was always bill doing the lying. FBI files on Republicans found in the Whitehouse, missing subpeonaed phone records show up in Hillary's office, the ridiculous pardons and those payments to Hillary's brother to help secure pardons, the firing of longtime whitehouse travel staff so they could hire friends, the clinton's tried to steal furniture from the whitehouse ... ugh Geffen sums it up for me: David Geffen, a former Clinton donor and Hollywood mogul, that “the Clintons lie with such ease, it’s troubling”.
I prefer someone who goes off once in a while to someone who is fake. Having a temper can mean you really care about the issue. Hillary gives me the impression that she almost only cares about power and winning. I know the type from law school and from other stages in life. The type that would do anything to get ahead. Obama doesn't come across that way. Has anyone seen the movie Michael Clayton? Hillary reminds me of the female lawyer in the movie.
I can vote for either Hillary or Obama, I think many people are like that, don't have a strong preference for either one (I will vote for the winner in general election as well). I think I will register to vote in the Democrat primary here (as an independent).
Well, Bush is the reason why I won't vote for Mccaine this year. I don't want some one to continue his war and waste more money.
Cohen, I couldn't agree more. Maybe she's a product of the system, but I am to the point, sadly, where I might stay home or vote for John McCain before voting for her. I would like to send a message, as strongly as possible, that the nation is sick of this stale old venom. WTF is wrong with people in Ohio and TX (other than the Rush_Jorge voters, of course)?
Now I know I must be right. You would consider McCain? I feel apologetic about any support for McCain. He's a good man and I like his previous independence from the party line (and that Rush hates him ), but any possible continuation of Bush foreign policy is frightening. But Il Duce Hillary is way more frightening. Guess I'm not surprised people vote for her ... after feeling like Democrats always looked the other way when it came to Bill's transgressions, but I am surprised that people think she will get a lot of independents to vote for her. Whereas Obama more and more is pulling votes from almost all demographics, there are many people who would vote for Obama but vehemently oppose Hillary. That's why polls show him performing better against McCain than her. And some might argue that polls can change quickly, but that's more an issue when you have an unknown. People's impression of Hillary goes back many years. IMO, Democrats supporting her are willing to give up the Whitehouse.
I think the Democratic turnout, compared to the Republican, is rather stunning in Texas. For a comparison, here are the figures for the 2000 primary: GOP 1,126,757 total (Bush 88%, McCain 7%) Democratic 786,890 (Gore 80%, Bradley 16%) For the 2008 Texas Primary? A staggering difference: 2008 Democratic Primary Total - 2,807,329 2008 Republican Primary Total - 1,299,396 I wouldn't be so quick to toss off the difference in the turnout between the two parties. In my opinion, we may be seeing the beginning of the end of GOP domination in Texas. It would take only 5, maybe 6 Texas House seats gained by the Democrats to take back the Texas House. That would put paid to the free reign the corrupt Perry/Craddick government (the GOP Lt. Governor and the Texas Senate tend to go with the flow... the Lt. Gov isn't what one would describe as a dynamic leader, to put it politely). We (Democrats) may add some House seats in Congress. Chipping away, folks. Impeach Bush.
I don't agree with this at all. Take a look at the major states -- Texas, Ohio, California, New York, Missouri, Florida, etc. Obama is pulling votes from the same centers that have defined the Democratic electoral map the last two elections -- major cities (Austin, Dallas, Houston). So many Democrats talk about the need to change the map and not fit within the preset red/blue divide of the past decade. Look at where Clinton's strength is. She is winning those districts where Democrats haven't succeeded in the past and need to succeed to have a clear victory in November. Also, I can promise you, there are many Clinton voters who vehemently oppose Obama as well.
Those articles are based on the assumption that Michigan and Florida aren't counted, which at this point it seems more likely than not that they will be in some form.
And I don't understand why that matters. Because I have a hard time believing that the rural counties in Texas, for example, will be voting for Hillary in a general election. Just because she beat Obama in a rural county in Texas does not mean she'll do the same to McCain.
Do you think that might have to do with many Republicans voting for her because they know she has a worse chance against McCain?
I can't believe what I read from some of you. Batman says she's as bad as Karl Rove. You say you would consider voting for McCain or staying at home before you would vote for her. It is absurd. Do you really want John McCain appointing lifetime Federal judges to the Supreme Court and the district courts all over this country? Are you that blind? (with all due respect! ) Batman says her tactics are as bad as Karl Rove's. Bull****. If you want a comparison, just look at the 2000 GOP primary in South Carolina and what Bush/Rove did to McCain and his family. THAT is a dirty, vicious campaign. This is nothing in comparison. Yet Mr. McCain will go to the White House today to pick up Bush's endorsement and vows to continue his policies. Get a grip, people. Some of these posts regarding Hillary Clinton are simply hysterical, and I don't mean funny. I think we have two fine candidates running for the nomination. I would like to see Obama win, and I think he will, but I don't shudder at the possiblity of Ms. Clinton running in November. Impeach Bush.
I can easily see Clinton winning some of those rural counties, particularly in the southern and western parts of the state where Hispanic interests predominate. In addition, margin is critical, and Clinton has a better chance to chip away at the typically huge Republican margins in those places than Obama does. Likewise, I don't understand why Obama's relative strength matters. I have a hard time believing that the urban counties in Texas, such as Travis County, will vote for a Republican in a general election. I'll have to see it to believe it.
but for the Rush_Jorge call to arms, would that 53% number have been larger? just because a majority voted for obama doesn't mean it didn't have an impact on the total numbers.
