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(Marc Stein) Ty Lue to meet with Rockets early next week

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Oct 10, 2020.

  1. YOLO

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    he barely played in the playoffs. hardly consider him a key rotation piece at 8 min/game and avg less than 2 pts. non factor
     
  2. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Repost for those wanting to know his background.

    Here's an old article from 2016 describing his coaching journey, as well as players and coaches complimenting his leadership and knowledge of the game.


    From player to coach, Tyronn Lue has always been a student of the game
    Jeff Zillgitt
    USA TODAY Sports

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    CLEVELAND – From Phil Jackson, Cleveland Cavaliers coach Tyronn Lue picked up a calm demeanor.

    From Stan Van Gundy, he crafted some of his offensive philosophy.

    From Scott Skiles, he developed a defensive philosophy.

    From Doc Rivers, he learned how to lead a team in addition to culling a set of effective after-timeout plays.

    Throughout his playing career, Lue took notes and sketched plays and put them in a binder labeled by that coach’s name.

    “I noticed him writing plays down, and players usually don’t do that,” said Rivers, the Los Angeles Clippers’ coach. “What Ty has done is taken a little of Phil, of Stan, of me, of Scott, and what he’s done very well is made it his own. That’s what you have to do.

    “You can’t do exactly what the coach you played for or coached with did. You have to make it your own, and he’s doing a great job of that.”

    In his first season as a head coach – a half season actually since he took over for fired David Blatt when the Cavs were 30-11 – Lue finished the regular season 27-14, improving in the final month and through the playoffs as he installed his offensive and defensive plan.


    “With not a lot of practice time and taking over 41 games into the season, it was hard,” Lue said. “But the guys did a great job of continuing to pick it up, continuing to get better each and every day.

    “The last month or month and a half of the season we took off and started playing and becoming who we wanted to be as a team.”

    As the Cavs rolled through the Eastern Conference playoffs, Lue settled in, discovering the right rotations, designing plays that worked and knowing when to call timeouts.

    “He’s just very composed,” Cavs star LeBron James said. “He’s very sure of his knowledge of the game, and what needs to be done for our team to be successful. It’s great to have him standing up over there because he’s just very even-keeled. He knows what he wants from us, he demands it.”

    The NBA Finals against Golden State have presented Lue with his biggest challenge. The Cavs are down 2-0, and Game 3 is Wednesday in Cleveland (9 p.m. ET, ABC).

    Lue has had trouble finding the right rotations against the Warriors. Channing Frye’s minutes have been limited in this series, and Lue had James and Kevin Love on the bench at the start of the fourth quarter in Game 1 when it could be argued they should have been on the floor with Golden State leading 74-68. By the time James and Love went back in, Cleveland trailed by double-digits.

    But this is more about Golden State’s players than what Lue is or isn’t doing. The Warriors are adept at taking away what the Cavs like to do, and the Cavs don’t have the personnel to counter it.


    Lue will keep trying to find better rotations and better ways to be more effective. Earlier in the playoffs, he said he had trouble sleeping as strategies ran through his mind.

    When the Cavs beat Toronto and advanced to the Finals, Lue told USA TODAY Sports, “It means a lot. Through all the stuff we’ve been through this year, and the circumstances in which everything happened, it’s just … it means a lot. I can’t really describe it. It hasn’t sunk in yet, but just the hard work I’ve put in, just being organized and just try to do the right as a human being.”

    For much of his career as a player, Lue had never considered coaching, but Rivers saw potential.

    “I just thought he was a natural leader,” Rivers said. “He has this ability to connect. I love his IQ. I just thought he had the intangibles. He had the ability to tell people what they don’t want to hear. I thought, ‘This kid could be a really good coach someday.’ ”

    Rivers floated the coaching idea.

    “He thought it was silly,” Rivers said. He said, ‘There’s no way I’ll coach.’ I said, ‘You’ll be a coach. You know it, you’re smart about it and you’ll coach.’ I told him, ‘At some point after you retire, give me a call, I’ll have a job for you.’ ”

    Lue retired in 2009 and called Rivers, who didn’t have job opening with the Boston Celtics. “I called Danny (Ainge) and said ‘Listen, I want to hire another coach but I don’t have a position. I want to put him behind the bench, and I’m telling you, he’ll be good.’ Danny trusted me. I called Ty and offered him a job.

    “It takes time to stop being a player and understand coaching is a whole another thing. It takes all of your time. You work twice as hard. You watch more film.”

    Rivers said Lue made the transition in Boston when Rivers had Lue work with Rondo and in Los Angeles when Rivers made Lue the Clippers’ defensive coordinator.

    “I told him he had to stay here all summer. He had to watch every team and do the scouting for every team and I wanted a report. And he did it,” Rivers said. “That’s when he transitioned over to really doing it, and from that day forward, he was ready to go.”

    When contacted by USA TODAY Sports, Jackson, who coached Lue on the Lakers, said in an e-mail that his memories of Lue as a player “cloud my thoughts of him as a coach.” Jackson said Lue wanted to hang with the “big dogs” and they called him Mini-Me.

    But Jackson also said, “As he matured in the league, one saw his ability to facilitate the needs of a team and be a steadying influence as a lead guard.”

    Lue has displayed those same abilities as a coach.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...d-cavaliers-phil-jackson-doc-rivers/85530302/
     
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  3. D-rock

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    For someone so calm, why did he require mental down time so early in HC career?

    And still wondering why he hasn't gotten another HC opportunity since Cavs fired him.

    Oh yeah, he was fired from the woeful Cavs.
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    He was a rotational piece of a championship team and he was at the end of his career, you have no idea the impact he had on that team yet he still got time in the playoffs.

    Once again you have no idea the impact he had on that team.
     
  5. OkayAyeReloaded

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    He was actually offered the Lakers head coaching job before this. It seems like they tried to low ball him and he declined them. Repost

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-tyronn-lue-not-hired-20190508-story.html#:~:text=As a coach who had,an opportunity to move on.
     
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  6. FrontRunner

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    Hard pass. You don't fire people like this.

     
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  7. YOLO

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    Yeah I do. He wasn’t much of a factor. In fact not relevant. Quit making up stuff, and stop assuming.

    Lol end of his career.....he was 24 years old when la played philly. Just Stop it
     
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    Because all he's ever had is LeBron James.

    This isn't a knock on Lue - I would love to also have LeBron if I was a first-time head coach. But his head coaching resume just doesn't have adversities on it besides losing in the Finals to GS.

    If he had a HC stint elsewhere and did moderately well, then that's a whole different story.
     
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    ...he’ll have James Harden. I really don’t see your point.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    James Harden needs a coach that isn't going to let him walk all over him.
     
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    so here is perk saying an interesting sound bite and him being coached by Ty Lue for 2 years and having a personal connection to him.
    He is saying Ty Lue Has tremendous loyalty to Doc Rivers and that might push him to take the Houston Job over the clippers job Bc he doesn’t feel right in his loyalty. But if Houston deal doesn’t work out and that was his only option then he would take the clippers job.
    So Houston could come away with Ty Lue and JVG could be very well headed to LAC the opposite of what we thought
     
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    this is only 2016 but it feels like ancient times lmfao
     
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    LeBron James > James Harden. If that's not your opinion, then that's not your opinion.

    Competition in the West > competition in the East. If that's not your opinion, then that's not your opinion.
     
  16. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    I dunno. This is basically "current Cavs player praises current Cavs HC."
     
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    If this analysis rings true I could be down with Lue. Thanks, I appreciate the education.
     
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  18. jdiggidy

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    This is what I was looking for. I appreciate the insights.
     
  19. hakeemthagreat

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    You've been wrong about pretty much everything you post
     
  20. YOLO

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    Lmao you of all people trying to tell someone this. You’re not even in consideration to my level. Surprised you’re still even posting with how bad you are around here. One of the regulars that continuously tries to be the loudest and yet ends up on the wrong end all the time
     

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