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[Marc Stein] Sources: Wiz, Rockets talking deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lmaballa, Jan 31, 2010.

  1. kegray34

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    That is what Penders players are known for being.
    Quaility NBA players.
    Coleman is a chucker and blows. He will go undrafted so focusing on him next season in the draft is a waste of time.
     
  2. Depressio

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    This is why I'd prefer dealing with Washington: flexibility.

    Looking at the Rockets salary cap situation in 2011 (http://bit.ly/7TES11) looks like we could COMPLETELY rebuilds with young players and free agents if we chose to do so. The only person we're really married to as an organization is Trevor Ariza.

    So if Butler+Yao+Brooks doesn't lead us anywhere, well, try again with a different combo next year, or even manage to sign both Yao/Butler cheaper (doubtful, we'll see how the CBA negotiations go) and sign another impact player.

    But if we're talkin' 2011-2012, it's a bit too far in the future, especially with the CBA negotiations and potential lockout coming after 2010-2011.
     
  3. LifeisButaDream

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    Believe it not DM constructed a team that he knows that will barely make or miss the playoffs.
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    pretty damn good concideing we have no superstars huh? ;)
     
  5. Chopped

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    lmao. :grin:
     
  6. LongTimeFan

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    I fail to see how my response was in any way 'blasting him', especially in the context of being sarcastic/name calling, etc. If anything, I was just responding to him with a different opinion. He was technically correct in the idea that it is possible to use Haywood in a SnT - I never disputed that. I simply said that I strongly felt the Rockets would never entertain such idea, because a) they would most likely have to take back longer contracts, as b) I doubt any team is going to give up something valuable to lock up Haywood for an additional year or few million. That wasn't blasting the guy, that was just pointing out that the bird rights "asset" isn't as much as you might think.

    This argument should be in the other thread on the topic. In my view, tanking means you purposely lose or purposely sit some of your best players to achieve such result. This isn't what I want; I don't think anybody but a handful of people want the Rockets to purposely sit Brooks/Landry for the remaining season. As I said in the other threads on the topic, I root for the Rockets to win, but if they lose I'm not upset. Any other year, and I don't talk to people after a Rockets loss because I'm too mad. This year? Eh, oh well. This is a development year, plain and simple. And being that it is a development year, I see very little use for Haywood. As I've stated before, I feel like he'd be one-and-done with the Rockets if it came to that. He's only going to take away from Scola/Landry/Andersen's development this year; if a player has no long-term future with the team, I'd rather we allow someone to develop and play who WILL benefit us when it matters, and not when we're hanging on to being the 11th best team in the West.

    I have no idea where you're getting the drop-off after about 9-10 picks argument. I did a quick search for the draft, and only found a small blurb about the PGs in this draft being weak compared to last year. You're talking about an average difference in about 5-6 draft spots - that's pretty significant. Especially when you consider that three times now Morey has been unable to land the guy he wanted because he was taken a few spots ahead of us (2006: Brandon Roy; 2007: Rudy Fernandez, 2008: Courtney Lee). You argued Haywood's bird rights give us options -- well the same concept applies here. Having a draft pick that's 5-6 spots ahead of where we would be as the 8th seed gives us more options, in who we draft and in who we could possibly trade it for. Even if the guy we really wanted wasn't projected to go until around 18-20, we could trade back and pick up more of Morey's infamous 2nd rounders. Either way, the 5-6 spot difference is bigger than you're giving it credit for.

    I don't buy your free agent argument. They'll sign because of the situation and money; nobody's going to say "well they didn't make the playoffs without their franchise player so I'm not going to sign!"

    You said making the playoffs would make this a positive season; does that mean you feel that if they don't make the playoffs it was a negative season? I don't think missing the playoffs automatically means this was a negative season - few people believed we would even make it. You can already draw up a lot of positives from this season (AB&Landry's break out years; Budinger, Lowry, etc.); I don't think missing the playoffs will erase those.
     
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  7. LifeisButaDream

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    Thanks to the genius RA.
     
  8. J.R.

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    Nothing really new but "news" nonetheless.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/02/wizards-trade-rumors.html
     
  9. Rockets Jones

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    My question is: why in the world would the Rockets talk to the Knicks ? Outside of David Lee they have nothing. I do not expect a trade and if we probably get something unexpected. Maybe a 3-way trade is in the making ?
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Him too.

    Good car and good driver.
     
  11. desi tmac91

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    Haywood wouldn't likely resign with us, I doubt he wants to be a backup next season.
     
  12. LifeisButaDream

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    Why would DM allow feigen to say this.these are having a hard time trying to win games.and they put this out.if am RA and am trying to win games.this is the last thing i want to see. :confused:
     
  13. Depressio

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    Because he doesn't control the media?
     
  14. JMAD21

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    Im okay with sending Bud! Not Brooks or Landry!
     
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    A trade will happen if the Knicks are on the list they are like the last option of aggression. If they don't add Gillanari they are better off to let Tracy expire. I can actually see him playing center for some minutes in a small ball line up.
     
  16. LifeisButaDream

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    does it feigen work for the rockets?
     
  17. Rockets4279

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    Knicks dont have anything is my guess. They have players who cant even crack our rotation. Gallinari is who i want he can be Pedja in the system for Adelman. Other then that Lee is likely going to Portland, if they were interested in Haywood they'd definately be interested in Lee as he was going to play in Portland once before. I think rox have a under the table type of deal that has not come out yet. Maybe Gallianri and Bayless somehow.
     
  18. Egghead

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    Friedman works for the Rockets.. Feigen works for the chron
     
  19. LifeisButaDream

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    It still dose it make sense to name what players.if am Brooks,Landry or Chase i would be more worried now.
     
  20. rockets934life

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    Trust me they already know what the deal is... ;)
     

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