Marc Stein: Clippers Gauging Trade Value Of Paul George With Blazers, Rockets Possible Destinations

Definitely not weak. If you want to see what weak handles are for a two guard look at players like Sharpe or Jaylen Brown.

 

and yet how often does he get around his man using the dribble? Hardly ever. His best move was driving baseline because it doesn’t require a strong handle. And that stat doesn’t differentiate useless dribbles at the top of the key. He doesn’t turn it over often Off the dribble? Hard to believe but okay. Even so, is he getting good shots off the dribble? Definitely not.

his handles are weak. Not the weakest. But they’re nothing impressive whatsoever. That’s something that is obvious from watching. Not some stat with no context.

 

and yet how often does he get around his man using the dribble? Hardly ever. His best move was driving baseline because it doesn’t require a strong handle. And that stat doesn’t differentiate useless dribbles at the top of the key. He doesn’t turn it over often Off the dribble? Hard to believe but okay. Even so, is he getting good shots off the dribble? Definitely not.

his handles are weak. Not the weakest. But they’re nothing impressive whatsoever. That’s something that is obvious from watching. Not some stat with no context.

Or Michael Jordan going left coming into the league. He can certainly improve. Can’t remember who I just saw talking abt MJ’s handles being the weakest part of his game coming into league and by the time he retired it was his strength.

 

Jalen Green beats perimeter defenses all the freaking time off the dribble. Wtf are you talking about dude? Beating players at the baseline is harder because defenders can use the baseline as a defender. What the hell are you talking about?

No you definitely don't watch games.

There is a reason why his ts% isn't utter compete dog **** even though his shooting splits were horrible. It's because his ability to get to the line by beating perimeter defenders off the dribble. What games did you watch dude?

 

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The more I think about it the more I would take George if we swing and miss in FA

I think he would be a low maintenance vet we could start this year and try to move to the bench next year. His salary is a lot but it’s only two years. He’d be coming off the books for our last swing at free agency in 2 years

Definitely a risk though

 

MJ had secure and effective handles. Just not flashy handles and that was in the 90s when handles weren't as refined in general as modern Gleague guards have better handles than a lot of star 90s guards.

 

You’re welcome to be wrong. Doesn’t bother me. And no, going baseline is not harder in terms of handle. I have the weakest handle of anyone on the planet and that’s why I ALWAYS go baseline.

 

Baseline is the worst place to try to operate in a iso one on one situation because defenders can hedge easier by using the baseline out of bounds line as a defender. The reason why you might perceive baseline driving as easier because usually a baseline drive is from a teammate driving and kicking out to the baseline where the defenses aren't set any more. Think of the Chandler Parsons special of driving to the rim off a Harden drive and kick. That's how most baseline drives occur, against defenders that aren't set.

And btw those type of baseline plays off of a drive and kick aren't recorded as unassisted buckets. They are recorded as buckets that were assisted. Green has a high unassisted rate for fgs made for an off guard. It's at 60%. For reference someone like Sharpe is at 33%. Sophmore Jaylen Brown was at 35%. 60% of Green's fgs made came purely off the dribble with no set up by teammates. Poor ball handlers don't score 60% of their buckets unassisted.

Do ya you are welcome to be wrong.

 

We will have to agree to disagree. It happens. I stand by my assessment of Greens weak handles and inability to consistently create space off the dribble.

 

I laughed when I read that. I feel you. I've had league pass for many years here in Austin so I can watch the games. When the league dreamed up NBATV so they could squeeze more money out of the fans, I got it so I could watch the games they moved there, games that used to be on LP. I record them so I can watch one I missed, or rewatch one if it's especially good.

It's an addiction, one that's become painful to a degree due to the coach we had mucking around with how he used our players. Our previous coach was maddening, and I've yet to forgive Stone for hiring him. Guess he's made up for it with Udoka. We'll see soon enough.

Having said all that, though, I have to add that Jalen has a good handle. He really does. Not world class, but good, and he's working on getting it better, in my opinion. Hey, if we all agreed about everything, this would quickly become a very boring place. ;-)

 

I mean it's such a wild opposite opinion that I don't know how it occurs. Green's number one ability at the moment is literally dribble seperation. His problem is making the right read after blowing by perimeter defenses.

Green would be the first off guard in league history who scores off the dribble as much as he does that is a "poor ball handler" if we go by your claim.

Why do you think his ftr is so high for a player who is so slight of frame as he is?

 

I know signing FAs without overpaying for us at this time might be challenging, but trading good assets for an over 32 often injured player is a horrible thought

Be patient. Let’s wait to see what Ima another year older does. Sign lesser known players that are younger, good but not an all star - yet. We have money. Use the space wisely.

 

Huge, massive ****ing mistake, but exactly the kind of thing I'm afraid they are likely to do. I really don't want to sacrifice the pain of this rebuild just for the sake of being mediocre next season. **** that.

 

Paul George is a perfect role model for a group of young players but if the Rockets get him it's going to be at a cost that is a lot more than "vet mentor".

 

I've mentioned this before but he has a PO after this upcoming season. I think he opts out and it could be the reason the Clippers are exploring cutting ties with PG. They are reaching for a top 5 pick and I can't fathom the Rockets being that stupid to give up a massive haul.

Also, wouldn't be surprised at all if it doesn't take much to snag him away from the Clippers tbh.

Assuming we land that top 10 pick:

#10, two future seconds, KPJ, Garuba for PG? Something like that and I pull the trigger.

 

Your hero Jalen Green has painted fingernails and no muscles.

 

tank for 3 years then trade for a 33 year old.

Relax, front office isn’t THAT dumb.

 

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