Marc Stein: Christopher Paul is already recruiting Lebron

I mean s&t

 

No.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q42
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q92

To summarize, a restricted free agent essentially has five options:

• He can accept his prior team's qualifying offer, play for one season, and become a free agent again the following summer.
• He can accept his prior team's maximum qualifying offer (if applicable, and if one has been submitted) and play under a long-term contract at the maximum salary.
• He can negotiate a new contract with his prior team that is independent of the qualifying offer or maximum qualifying offer.
• He can sign an offer sheet with another team through March 1, which his prior team is given the opportunity to match.
• He can negotiate a sign-and-trade if he has not signed an offer sheet with another team.
• If he doesn't sign a qualifying offer, a contract, or an offer sheet for one year, his prior team can submit a new qualifying offer (or maximum qualifying offer), and the player becomes a restricted free agent again the following offseason.

If a team matches an offer sheet and retains its free agent, then for one year they cannot trade him without his consent, and during that year cannot trade him at all to the team that signed him to the offer sheet. They also can't trade the player in a sign-and-trade transaction. A restricted free agent's resulting contract (whether with the new team or the contract is matched by the player's prior team) cannot be amended in any manner for one year.
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i meant sign him and then later on decide to trade him during the summer . From my understanding, a s&t means signing him and trading him right away.

 

This cleared it up. I guess Capela would have to agree, but it wouldn't surprise me if he consented.

 

Capela would have to consent to be traded but only half his salary would count in trade because of base year compensation rules and we would be hard capped. We don't want to go this route.

 

Can you imagine if Ryan Anderson costs the Rockets again?

It's possible the Rockets can't make the math work. This opt-in is the only way to make it work salary wise. Can the Rockets trade Ryan Anderson to a 3rd team while satisfying what Cleveland would want if they let their icon leave? I don't know. These are all viable questions. If that didn't work, would Daryl be (A) willing (B) able and (C)still attractive enough to LeBron to tear apart the team to get cap room? It's not impossible but you'd lose almost everyone else. (A) Can you do that? (B) Is that still attractive to LeBron? You destroy the supporting cast of the team that won 65 games. All of these are viable questions. Because of that, it's far from a done deal he goes to Houston. There are real questions. What I don't see as questions are (A) fit (B)West vs. East and (C)making a decision before July. Those are incredibly overdone.​

 

If Lebron is serious about not wanting to tear the team apart, he is in control and can take 10mil/yr on short term deal. Same for CP3. He can take the MLE.

 

Capela is a RFA on July 1st right? Before this date, he can be traded with no issue? If Anderson and Capela can be traded to Suns w/o having to take back salary, it should be done to make room for getting Lebron.

 

How much would that extra 6.25M save Cle in lux tax payments?

 

The situation with CP3 last season and this season with Lebron , PG13 and DJ aren't technically Sign and Trade. They are opting into existing contracts which as far as the cap goes is significantly different being that the hard cap doesn't come into play.

None of this applies to the typical NBA free agent , only those who have player option(s) at the tail end of their contracts. So to say this is the blueprint going forward is a bit disingenuous. 450 plyers in the league and its going to affect a handful …. all of them big money names.

 

That's a good question and I haven't done the math from Cleveland's end to see what it takes to get them out of tax territory. If they are in the tax again it would be as a repeater so you re looking at a minimum of $2.50 on the dollar.

We know that they are gonna be lottery bound if Lebron leaves and they wont want to pay luxury taxes for a loser. I think its safe to assume that they wouldn't be absorbing Ryno's contract , he'd be going to a 3rd team with some form of compensation attached exchanging Lebron for EG which gets them under the tax line by ~$5M on this years numbers. (don't know what next years cap is).

So the actual savings of that 6.25 is exactly that …. Assuming they don't absorb Ryno.

But …. why would they want to be that close to the cap with such a terrible team ?! They'd be looking to jettison just about everyone and look like the 76ers from 5 years ago. A lottery bound team with young players and as little payroll as possible.

 

Indiana has some non-guaranteed Contracts. Moving Ego + Ryno + picks to a couple teams with cap space + non- guaranteed’s would be something CLE would covet if they were looking at LBJ leaving. I think it’d require Tucker or Capela though to have enough to make it happen. CLE won’t want any or little salary back IMO.

 

Ryan Anderson was trash in last year's playoffs.

Ryan Anderson cost us Paul George.

Ryan Anderson cost us Melo (I will take that)

Ryan Anderson was trash again this playoffs.

Ryan Anderson cost us 2018 championship.

And now...

Ryan Anderson will cost us Lebron James or other quality players.

Ryan Anderson will be trash again.

Ryan Anderson will cost us 2019 championship if he is still on the team.

By far, the MOST DAMAGING player, play and contract wise, to ever put on a Rockets jersey.

 

What did it cost to get CP3 last year ?! Not much - PatBev was the best player that went to LA in that deal and even he was literally salary filler , the rest was a bunch of underperforming young guys who made up the balance of the salary requirements and a first round pick.

I expect pretty much the same scenario here with the caveat that Ryno's salary takes an asset to move - that asset is likely EG (or a pick from another team who acquires EG) who is essentially a first round pick in the bank for the acquiring team - they could easily move him for a pick from a contender at the deadline. Cleveland gets out of their cap troubles and gets draft considerations from Houston (they probably make other moves to reduce payroll too) - that's a lot of something for a player that will walk otherwise.

 

Really don’t understand this Sixers hype. They were an average team til they went on that long winning streak against a lot of bad teams. Brad Stevens put out the blueprint on how to shut them down. Unless Vegas is pricing in LeBron going there, I don’t see how they’re paying the same odds as the Rockets.

 

I think the Sixers are overhyped on LeBron based on two primary reasons:

1) Like the Spurs last year with CP3, you have people doing imaginary "starting 5" comps without thinking of the personalities of the people involved. Yes, on paper, SA made as much or more sense for CP3 than HOU. But Harden had much more of a relationship with Paul, since they were closer to the same age, had been on prior Team USA's together, etc. OTOH, I don't think CP had nearly that same level of relationship with a younger Kawhi. I think there could be a similar dynamic with LeBron and Philly. Yes, Simmons, Embiid, etc. are nice on paper. But a 33-year-old LeBron may prefer to go to war with CP, Harden, etc., guys he trusts and has a strong relationship with from over his 15 years in the nBA.

2) People are still acting like it's 2015, in regards to the West vs. East split, and trying to find scenarios where LeBron can stay out East. Whether LeBron goes to Philly or Houston, there are basically two roadblocks: Golden State, and to a lesser extent, Boston. It's basically the same two teams, just reverse the order based on which team (Houston or Philly) he chooses. There's no real difference. I know some on social media are obsessed with this "NBA Finals streak," but personally, I don't think LeBron cares about the streak if it means his team is the new-age Buffalo Bills. He wants the best chance to actually beat the Warriors. Avoiding the West made sense three years ago, when you had the No. 6 seed as the 55-win and defending champion Spurs. Back then, the entire playoffs were a grind, which could limit your chances of getting to the final rounds. It's not like that anymore. There's Golden State, Houston (who LeBron would be joining in this scenario)... and then an enormous drop to a bunch of teams that couldn't even win 50. The West isn't bad now, but it's not like it was when you had the KD/Russ Thunder, Paul/Griffin/DJ Clips, Duncan Spurs, and Grizzlies in their prime... all in addition to Houston/GS. It's not like that anymore, yet casuals are slow to react.

 

Will be interesting to see what happens after philly replaces Colangelo with David Griffin

 

LerBon will go to Filthadelphia then.

 

You mean, SHinkie, yes?