Marc Spears from Yahoo Sports: "Nobody" is interested in trading for Thomas Robinson

This is why you aren't an NBA GM.

It's about both. You simply don't dump guys that you perceive have more value than what is being offered. You find another way.

Here's a couple things to think about:

1. If TRob had stayed at KU he would have undoubtedly had a very, very successful campaign with monster numbers. Where do you think he would rank in this draft?

2. Where do you think DMo and TJones would rank in this draft?

Now combine 2 of these 3 guys and tell me what value they would have in draft picks either in this draft or a future draft???

Here's the thing...if TRob really has no trade value, then Morey can just hold him. He can then create space by trading away BOTH TJones and DMO for future first rounders. (In my humble opinion, if Morey decided to package TJones and DMo in a trade, he would be able to get a top 6 pick in this draft....maybe better.) Morey could trade away Greg Smith for a future second rounder AT LEAST and possibly a low first rounder.

So...we are allegedly "stuck" with TRob and Royce. Because they are so "bad". Well, guess what? Trade deadline rolls around next February...and all of a sudden Royce is an expiring contract and TRob has either regained value or he is an expiring contract also. We're over the cap since we signed Dwight, don't have room to play. So we go fishing for a trade. We can trade for some player that's got 1 year left from some team that is wanting to dump salary. They give us the salary and a first rounder. The next season that player is an expiring contract. Repeat same scenario. Find a team with another player with 1 year left that they want to dump. Another first rounder.

What I described for you is possibly the worst case scenario regarding TRob's trade value. A lot better scenarios may indeed unfold.

 

@therealist
I love reading your positive posts. It brings joy to my day.

 

i'd be stunned. #6, you can probably get Anthony Bennett there. teams always fall in love with shiny new names that they haven't seen vs. NBA players yet.

 

Let's say Bennett is there an NOLA is on the clock. Morey offers them TROB/DMO/and our 2014 1st rounder for that pick...............

 

Don't we prefer recruiting better quality player from Europe instead of American college players?

 

Yeap and may can get a lil better than that.

 

maybe, that seems more reasonable. depends on who they like.

personally, i don't think Robinson or Motiejunas (or Jones) have sustained their perceived value from this summer. Even in a weaker draft, i'm not sure they are worth more than picks in 20s. 2014 1st will also likely be a 20s (possibly low 20s) pick.
So it's about who likes who in the 2013 draft in that scenario.

 

He's actually right.

 

And that's fine. But see how to open up your mind to other possibilities here?

IMO, I think Morey really likes CodyZeller. And personally I think Zeller would be worth the risk of giving up 2 of 3 of TRob/DMo/TJones to get his rights. And that deal could be crafted to clear space to sign Dwight and they get Zeller's draft rights. But that's just one man's opinion.

 

I think there were two parts to what he said. Part of it is he doesn't think Robinson is that good. Fair enough in my opinion. The second part is probably even closer to the truth; nobody wants to help form another strong team. So while there may be some teams that are willing to at least take a flier on Robinson, there is no point in being "that team" and collectively annoy the other teams. That takes away most of the West and at least the contending teams in the East. Our best luck is with a team like Orlando, or we make it seem like we have a "deal" but agree to SnT him to the Lakers to get Dwight. Lakers don't have to care about being "that team" if they are going to indirectly be responsible by not being able to convince Dwight to stay.

 

open my mind to what possibilities? you mean trading Motiejunas/Jones as opposed to Robinson to clear cap space? sure, i think there's that possibility.

i just disagreed/doubt that Motiejunas/Jones are worth #6 pick in this draft or higher.

 

I agree with this somewhat. However it would take a very collective unified group of teams to keep this from happening. Especially with free agency and teams with cap space. So...you don't want to help Houston? So....both guys sign in Atlanta and join up with Horford....or Horford is traded for a high first rounder in this draft and Dwight, Paul, and Josh Smith all team up in the East.

That threat would cause some teams in the East to help the Rockets get Dwight and CP3 to Houston. They don't want 2 superteams in the East that they have to try to beat b4 they can even get to the Finals. If there's gonna be another superteam formed, the East Conference teams want it out West....and of course the West Conference teams want it out east. So, other teams salary cap space neutralizes this to some degree.

 

Exactly. It's not about Trob's value, it's about teams not willing to help Morey clear the space to obtain Dwight Howard.

 

You won't get all the teams to agree on this. Too many other struggling with open cap space that they have to fill. Teams like Milwaukee....Detroit.....Charlotte.......and on and on and on.

Do you realize that all these teams have to pay out 90% of the salary cap to players starting next season. That means if the cap is $60 million and Atlanta misses out on Dwight/Paul....they gotta pull about $30 million down in salary for somebody. They give JSmoove max (not likely) and they've still gotta pass out another $12-14 million! Detroit???? Who they gonna give all that dough to without messing up their cap for the next 3 years??

Let me tell you something....if Dwight commits to Houston...we'll have no trouble creating the cap space for him. None. Not with the combination of open cap space, the 90% rule and this weak draft.

 

This is just some lame attempt by Cuban to derail the Rockets pursuit of Dwight. Easy money for Spears.

 

Seriously we're gonna quote mark spears now? God dam this off season is gonna be long.

 

This all makes sense in why Morey leaked his trade rumor to the press. Because he has to, to get people thinking that somebody might get TRob before you. suckers.

I want Patrick Patterson back. He was my favorite Rocket!

 

This is strickly Marc Spear's opinion of Robinson not having great trade value right now, and that there are red flags surrounding him.

However, Marc Spears isn't an NBA GM, and who's to say that if he was an NBA GM with a little bit a cap space that he wouldn't take a swing at Thomas Robinson for either a trade exception, 2nd round pick, or a Euro-stash player who isn't coming to the NBA probably ever???

Robinson might very well not be a potential superstar player that he looked like he might be coming out of Kansas, but that isn't to say that NOBODY wants him. I think that's ridiculous... Its just at what cost.

If your an NBA GM, your not going after a max free agent right this second, and you aren't giving up anything to get Robinson, you would be STUPID to not take a free young talent like Thomas Robinson. The Rockets will find someone to take him from them if they haven't already... its just a matter of whose willing to give what.

If all else fails and the Rockets can't find a taker (very doubtful), there are other options they could look at such as D-Mo & Jones for picks/TE & they could use the stretch for White as well to lessen his salary load.

And if worse comes to worst, Im almost positive quite a few NBA teams would love to take Asik off of their hands.... including probably the Los Angeles Lakers in a S&T for Howard.

 

Were you there when morey told spears no one called?

Most of you would make terrible gms in the nba. I could have got larry sanders from you for a late second after his first year in the nba.

When was the last time a 20 year old pf entered the league and started dominating like he did in college?