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Marc Spears: Dwight's knee is bone on bone

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 10, 2014.

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  1. banzai

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    His lackadasical attitude is even worse.... I would have cut his A@# for being such a baby. That really shows in his game and team performance in NO. I'm glad we got rid of him actually.
     
  2. Louka

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    microfracture surgery, stock drops, re-sign him on a low-blow two year contract... hope he rebounds well and good to go as the number 3 go-to player behind Harden and ______ for our 2016 championship run. Boom!
     
  3. Deckard

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    I certainly didn't need to see this thread this morning. Most of the curses that come to mind have already been used, so I won't add any. One can only hope that Dwight simply doesn't understand the condition of his knee. My fingers are crossed.
     
  4. banzai

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    I like the idea too... Plus it gives our bench time to develop and have some grit. I think we are doing just what the Spurs are doing so, I'm not worried. Maybe Morey is pulling a "Dwight's injury is serious" to justify sitting him out for extended periods of time. Trust me, you think his publicists would let him say this?
     
  5. ooooaaaah!

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    This is excellent news! Durant is coming after all!! Go Rockets!!!
     
  6. Zbed

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    I feel like if it were serious Dwight wouldn't have been running around in the birthday video and would have been taking it easy.
     
  7. IzakDavid13

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    I call B.S. on this one...
     
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    When has Marc Spears ever NOT been full of ****? He's one of those guys that I consider to be entirely un-credible.
     
  9. bmd

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    Sounds like Dwight's got a boner.
     
  10. OlajuwonFan81

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    I'm still shocked why the Rockets contingent has not discussed this and or corrected it. You'd think with a comment like that out there the Rockets Front office would have corrected the statement if it was false.
     
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    I thought it was funny how people were overreacting like Dwight's career just ended. Clowney is who houston sport fans should be sad about.
     
  12. Ranny

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    Cr@p!!!!!
     
  13. IzakDavid13

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    They haven't discussed it because it is false.

    Why correct it if it's false?

    1. It gives teams a false sense of security.
    2. No one will be coming after Dwight in free agency.
    3. It make Morey look like less of genius - meaning more GMs will be willing to open up trade talks. No GM likes to be Morey'ed.
    4. It gives us the perfect excuse to rest our superstar Big guy, without getting a Popavich style fine.
    5. Takes attention away from that other issue...
     
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    I think quote was very informal, and not meant to be a specific medical diagnosis. Dwight may or may not fully understand whatever condition he is having a problem with. I also don't think you can go from jumping better than you have in years to a degenerative "bone-on-bone" knee condition in 1 game. He may have suffered an injury, but there are degenerative problems and acute problems. If he had just suffered a devastating knee injury in one game, I think the news would be a little different.

    Also, there are degrees to every problem. Maybe he does have bone-on-bone in 5% of his knee joint (I'm making hypotheticals up and have no medical background)... fits the description and doesn't sound like Brandon Roy.

    I'm in the wait and see camp. No reason to panic based on that one quote.
     
  15. mockster

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    This could be the last year we see him. Better win the championship. Save him for playoffs lol.
     
  16. sirbaihu

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    I don't think it is literally true the way people are interpreting it. Wait and see.
     
  17. OlajuwonFan81

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    There are plenty of reasons to correct it. I could flip the script on you and say why comment on it if it's true?

    Bottom line nobody knows.......we are all just guessing but I'd feel much more comfortable if a Rockets official came out and flat out rejected this.
     
  18. LabMouse

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    I do not think his knee is in a bad condition, but the big men can just not stay health in the today NBA. Just look at Yao, Stoudemire, even Lopez in the Nets.
     
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    The concern would still be that a lot of his game is jumping around the rim. Further damage may not be of the career-ending type, but a nagging, "needs to rest it a bit" type that is chronic and keeps him out of the lineup on a semi-regular basis. Howard can jump quite high and the landing is what stresses the knees.

    I am curious, since you are a therapist, have you, by any chance, had occasion to examine Howard's knee? Or talk to medical personnel with the Rockets? I'm not asking this in a taunting way. Or was the injury described in the media, such that, any trained therapist recognizes the condition from its "label," while laypersons passed over it. Sometimes those in the know try to keep the lid on panic, but can't really disclose how they know. Your explanation is comforting and it sounds like you may have actually have seen either his knee or the medical test results, or know someone who has. It's a catch-22 question, I know. I've already said people in the know can't always disclose how they know what they know.

    One line of reasoning to try to fit comments and actions together might go like this:

    Dwight had no history of knee problems. Therefore he has no array of x-rays, etc., in his medical records that would have made the Rockets concentrate on that when doing his incoming physical.

    He did bump knees sometime earlier. I didn't see a date of the incident given in articles about his first "being out" for it. But that injury, necessarily, demanded a close medical examination of his knees. (Plural, because at that point, if there were anomalies of the injured knee, one would, naturally, inspect the other knee in detail, as well.) The other possibility is Howard may have known or suspected a deteriorating condition by a nagging pain, that didn't interfere with normal play and just kept it to himself, thinking it wasn't as serious as it might actually be. In other words, he would have thought it is just one of those nagging pains that many who play in the NBA seem to experiences.

    "Bone on bone" is probably a common enough phrase among athletes -- they've heard it before. But I don't think you use it in a media interview as a general reference to your injury, just off the top of your head, as in, "I think it's bone on bone." That description would most likely have come out of the diagnostics inspecting the extent of any injury and may have been used in the context of... the current injury has resulted in that scenario... or there is a degradation that wasn't apparent because no one had looked at his knees in detail until now.

    Ditto, for his explanatory comments that "... I've played a long time in the NBA..." That seems to be an acknowledgment of now knowing of a deteriorating condition over time; not due to this knee-knocking injury.

    The tentativeness in announcing his comeback naturally leads to giving some credence to the idea that something more permanent and chronic might have been discovered when first examining how bad the injury was. McHale being as straight-forward as he is, wouldn't dance around the question and is being honest by saying, "I don't know when he's coming back."

    If the injury is as you've described, and jumping is going to exacerbate it, I think it very reasonable for fans to see a cloud looming. If it is a steady and continuing degradation of the knee, then there may be even darker skies ahead. We all hope not. This is just reasoned speculation.

    This could also alter the perception that the Rockets are mostly window-shopping their trade exception. They may know of a permanent need to limit his minutes, now. It would change D-Mo's role, too. Heck, it could alter everyone's role.
     
  20. TheRealist137

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    what about the duty to the fans of the team to let them know how serious an injury to their big star is?
     

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