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Marbury is an idiot

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dragon167, Jan 16, 2003.

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  1. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Marbury is and has BEEN the biggest punk in the NBA.

    Maybe he has an inferiority complex over his giant alien head.

    I hope he NEVER wins a title.
     
  2. carayip

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    Ahh... right mentality and personality are a big part of makeup of a great player. Talent alone can get you so far. That's why MJ was so successful because he has great mentality and personality to go with his immerse talent.

    As talented as Marbury is, I predict that he will never achieve the utimate accomplishment i.e. championship.
     
  3. Sane

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    carayip,

    I agree completely, which is why I would never trade Steve for him, despite the slight talent differential.

    You can have all the talent in the world, but always fail...That's why Marbury will succeed in JR Rider's footsteps.
     
  4. Jonhty

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    Marbury definitely has the talents around him to have just as good a chance as Rockets at the championship. I mean, with Marion and one of future all star pf in Amare, the suns are going to be the force to be reckoned with for many years to come. but don't get me wrong. I dislike Marbury and certainly hope he won't win a championship.
     
  5. Zboy

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    He is talented, no doubt about it. But he does not make his teammates better! He can rack up the assists but they arent meaningful assists. Assists that change the course of the game. It's all about stats to him.

    Bottom line is, teammates will never play their hearts out for Marbury. They will never sacrifice for Marbury. They will never respect marbury as a person. Look no further than Minnesota and New Jersey. And Expect the same in the future in Phoenix. Because of all this, he cannot lead his team to a championship.

    BTW, Amare is only respecting Marbury right now because he is a rookie. Once he establishes himself, it will be Marbury vs Garnnet the sequel.
     
  6. carayip

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    See Zboy's post.
     
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    Where do you get that talent differential from? I disagree with that.
     
  8. Rockets34Legend

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    Well, Marbury is always going to be a punk, but I like the outcome on the scoreboard. That's what matters.
     
  9. Sane

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    Francis is a better rebounder than Marbury. He may (but probably is not) be the scorer Marbury is. In the passing department, Marbury is better. Even in defense. What exactly does Steve do better than Marbury, TALENT-WISE? (Please notice that I'ev acknowledged that Steve has the better mentality/personality to win)

    Contrary to what we think, Marbury is not a selfish player ON THE COURT.

    Zboy,

    Your comments are almost spot on. I shared the same thoughts prior to this season, but I have to tell you, Marbury has surprised me. Not only is Stoudamire listening to him, he's got Marion listening to him too. He's co-existing brilliantly with Penny too. Last night, he was screaming at his players, and he got their attention. At some point, Amare was 5 of 14 from the field until Marbury TOLD him about it. He's regularly racking up the assists, and that's even with Penny sharing the PG duties before. Yes, Marbury was playing OFF the ball a lot while Penny was playing. That's why the Suns were red-hot, and that's why they're going to go ice-cold.

    Of course, I'm not goin to assume that Marbury has changed his ways, but he's gone a long way in putting my negative opinions on hold.


    Let's not forget guys, the Suns have a better record than us. Before this season, it was "Marbury will never lead a succesful team". Now, it seems the tone has switched to "He'll never win a championship". Maybe we should take notice of his change this year.
     
  10. Cohen

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    Marbury's Mommy should have been there to take up for him... ;)
     
  11. danjojo

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    Marbury is an ass, he lost all credibility a long time ago saying how KG sucked and all....

    But, wow, Glen Rice All Star MVP in 97 ! How quickly we forget....

     
  12. carayip

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    I remember that Glen Rice suddenly got hot in 1 quarter and scored like 6-7 3 pointers. If not for this, MJ should have won 3 MVPs in a row (he got a triple double in that year).

    Why can't Rice shoot like that for us? ;)
     
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    I still don't think he is leading. He's playing better but there are two reasons the Suns are doing so good this year, Marion and Stoudemire...
     
  14. Sane

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    Don't you remember when people were saying Marion would fade out with Marbury at the point? Marion actually improved his play, and Marbury is a big part of Stoudamire's development. It's obvious that Marbury has Stoudamire's ear, and Stoudamire is listening.


    There's no better example than our last game. He showed that he's supremely talented, and great leader, but a really big ass that will never achieve great thigns with his attitude.
     
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    You must be a Marbury lover.:eek:
     
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    I love to watch Starbury. Serious skills, man. I love to watch him play for a team I want to LOSE because that is, I believe, Step-on's epithet.
     
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    This is classic for a Jerry Colangelo team. This is the same guy who rigged the rules committee to allow for zone defenses knowing his teams never play defense but suggesting the whole time it would be GREAT for offense, which it obviously has NOT.

    He also kicked members of Real Sports' staff out of his office when he was building the Bank One Ballpark because they pointed out that he slipped by a number of tax initiatives in the back door that would directly benefit him through the America West Arena and the BOB even though the taxpayers got no opportunity to vote on them.

    He's called his players out in public and threatened to dismantle the entire organization. He's chummy with David Stern so he almost always gets preferential treatment from the league on a variety of issues.

    The guy is like George Steinbrener west of the Mississippi. It should be no shock that his players say crap like that and "I've developed more than Yao," or whatever Amare said. Sigh.
     
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    Marbury sucks! I hope he will suck all his life.
     
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    Marbury is an idiot and everyone knows it. This is a guys has no class, arogant and claims that no one can guard him. Not only that, he can't even think and speak to the media right. Remembered he say he loves to play for NY because of the aroma. Why can't he be just like classy people like Kidd, Bibby, Stockon, Nash, B Davis, T Brandon, and A Miller.
     
  20. SageHare6

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    Jealousy is the second highest form of compliment a player can give.

    Stephon needs to get a clue... the only things that don't need to get voted on are:

    1. his stupidity
    2. his jealousy
    3. his getting an ulcer before the age of 35

    Anyways, I think the critics have really gotten into Marbury's head. In his own head, this is a guy who is clearlyURGENT to prove his worth as a real leader. After last season's NJ Nets run, there were so many comparisons made about how the Kidd for Marbury trade was a no-brainer and that PHX got the short end of the stick. Naturally, Marbury felt all the more sleighted. Marbury IS a different player this year. But it may be too little too late. After a summer of reinventing himself and his "philosophy" toward team-play. Marbury has had his chance (many chances in fact), to present a winning image and a winning philosophy for teams looking to him for leadership. But at this point in his career, it's gonna take a championship to quell the naysayers. Personally, I'm not convinced he has what it takes, mentally, and is PHX organization to get to the next level. Yesterday's comments are a case in point of his "maturity" as an INDIVIDUAL.

    Interestingly, the commentators for PHX made mention of how Marbury plays a similar "put your head down and drive" kinda game like Francis.

    BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE IS NO COMPARISON

    Francis is so much more a publicly "likable" guy than Marbury. Even when Francis makes bone-headed decisions, we, and all the fans in the continental U.S. still appreciate his day-in day-out effort. For all the changes happenning with the offense since Yao's late arrival, it's clear that Francis is a REAL LEADER. SF is clearly answering the call the change his game and involve his teammates more. Off the court, SF is unassuming and presents a positive, wholesome image.

    Marbury, on the other hand, has a "chip" on his shoulder against the critics AND this polling system that we call All-Star balloting. IMO, he appears to be a very bitter man who plays with a stomach full of anger. IMHO, I think the fans are turned off by his attitude. There's absolutely nothing "wholesome" about the image he presents. Why even utter that "I'm an All-Star" comment, esp when you're on the opponent's floor? If there were ever a better gauge for popular "likability" of players, the marketing people of Fortune 1000 firms aren't stupid. This is why we see Stevie Francis and Yao on TV for EA Sports and Apple commercials and NOT Stephon Marbury.

    Truthfully, I don't know what all the fuss is about with being or not being an All-Star. Fact is, lots of great players don't make it to the All-Star game. Personally, I like the play of Sam Cassell, Bobby Jackson, and Steve Nash to name a few. But are they starters or even All-Star nominees in the running? Nope.

    Marbury needs to get a clue and realize that his days of superstardom at Georgia Tech are LONG GONE.

    :p :p :p

    theSAGE
     

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