Marbury: 'I got shot in head by my own guys in my foxhole'

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DD

 

Marbury on a talent level is better than every PG he replaced and every PG who came after him(Kidd, Nash, Cassell, Brandon, etc). No doubt in the world he's more talented than Rafer.

Unfortunately it means nothing.

 

Here is the reason I would take a shot at him.

1. He is more talented than Rafer by a mile.

2. He would not be asked to be a leader here and could fall in line with Tmac, Yao & Artest.

3. He has been humiliated and humbled, and has something to prove.

4. He has one last chance to prove himself.

5. A shot at a ring with a talented team would motivate him to not rock the boat.

6. He would be a cheap, talented option that could easily be cut if it doesn't work out.

There is no way to deny he has been a nutbag, but it would be absurd to not at least consider his talent and how it would fit in with a team DEVOID of talent at the starting PG spot.

Marbury is undeniably a better player than any PG on the roster and would be the 2nd best passer behind Tmac.....

Would he stay in control? Who knows....but why not take a low level risk to find out.

This is all predicated on him being released from his contract with the Knicks though....

If that happens, Morey should be on the phone with his agent within seconds.

DD

 

Thank you. I know people are down on the Rox, but this type of move would be bad at any price. Every single stop has been a bad one for him, but somehow we will be the one team that benefits?

I have wanted Stephon to succeed ever since I read The Last Shot, where he was the youngest Marbury, riding to the pick-up games on a bigwheel. (That's a great book, by the way.) You read about his family and all the other ballers, and the background they're fighting to overcome, and you can't help but want him to have an amazing career. But there's just too much data now.

And for those of you arguing skills, look at his age, and consider his strengths: out-quicking and out-jumping people. He is definitely not out-thinking anyone. So his peak years are behind him now; that could have been a big unspoken part of D'Atoni's decisions with him.

 

Although I haven't made a decision about Marbury...

Talent, cost and personality....hmmm, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but that 3rd one can be a real show stopper.

 

Marbury is turnover prone and only averaged less than 14 points and 5 assists over the last two or three years in NYC.

he missed most of last season for no reason whatsoever, he elected for unnecessary surgery and left on the team.

HE QUIT ON HIS TEAM, THATS WHY HE ISNT GETTING MINUTES THIS YEAR.
HE IS NOT A GOOD TEAMMATE.

if he is such a talented basketball player, why has he been shunned from every team that he played on?

he didn't like being second fiddle to Kevin Garnett, so why would he take a role on the second unit without his ego getting in the way?

if he couldn't get along Mike D' Antoni, Isiah Thomas, Larry Brown, or Byron Scott, what makes you think he is going to get his as in line for Adelman?

I think the most important question is, if Staph Marbury is so good, why does he make every single team he plays on, WORSE?

 

DD, I totally agree with you! With Rafer, we have nowhere to go!

This is probably the last season for both Yao and Tmac here. Why don't give Marbury a chance, and give the rockets a chance?

 

Answer: Different roles, as a star, he will not be good, but as a role player, he maybe ok, but I still want to Deke on the team first, then take a look at Marbury late to see if he can play in our team.

 

TMac and Yao's team has no a chance to get a NBA title, just accept the fact. It sounds too negative, but it seems to be true as the time passed every year.

 

I can tell you this. We have a better chance of winning a championship with Rafer Alston than with Marbury.

I don't follow your logic. We are not contending because we are not healthy. Adding a cancerous PG will make us healthy?

 

The Mavericks are supposedly interested in Marbury, and they already have a future HOF PG and a better version of Brooks in J.Terry. Rafer "I can't make a jumper" Alston is our starter, yet we would be crazy to take a flier on him because he would kill our chemistry by the time we figured out it wasn't working.

Interesting.....

 

Really?

I think he over-estimate his service to his team and teammate.
When nobody likes you, it's time for you to look at yourself.

 

thats wonderful.. first gerald green and now marbury. if they get him i hope he's the nail in the coffin for that franchise. give stevie some steroids and bring him back.

 

T-Wolves:

The T-Wolves were 26-56 before he got there. In his first season they were 40-42. They were 45-37 in his last full season, 25-25 in the season he got traded, and 50-32 in the first full season after he was gone.

Form the looks of his stint there, they got much better when he arrived and 5 games better after he left. Why did they get better? First of all, they replaced him with Terrell Brandon, a very solid PG whose numbers (17, 9 and 2) basically mirrored Marbury's. KG also improved and was older (he was 21 in their last full season together, and 23 after he left) and the team added Wally Szczerbiak.

Nets:/

The Nets were 43-39 before he got there. In his first full season they were 31-51. In his final season they were 26-56. After he left, they were 52-30.

First off, he replaced Sam Cassell, another great PG. That's basically a wash there. The starting center spot before he got there was a rotation of Jayson Williams (13 and 14 a night) and Chris Gatling (12 and 6 a night). Both of those players were gone when he got there and the starting center was Jim McIlvaine (2 and 4, 53 games started) and Jamie Feck (6 and 9, 17 games started). I think that is significant, especially when your PF is basically a SF (Van Horn). Kerry Kittles (17 ppg) also missed 20 games that season.

They went 26-56 in his final season. After he left they went 52-30. First off, they replaced him with a HOF guard in his prime (Kidd, putting up 15, 7 and 10). They also added Todd MacCulloch (10 and 6) to the team. The previous year's centers were either really PF's (Aaron Williams, 25 games startes) or sucked (Evan Eschmeyer, 51 games started). They also added Richard Jefferson (9 and 4). Van Horn also missed almost half of his last season there. He played 81 games the following season with Kidd.

I'm not going to take the time to look at his other squads. I think the answer is pretty evident once you remove the blinders of hate. Yes, Marbury is a cancer, a grade A butthole and he has helped all of those teams lose. But it makes no sense to lay all the blame on him without looking at the rosters before and after he got there. If a team is replacing him with another solid PG (or a better one), then why would they get worse? Especially if they are adding other pieces, notably big men....or losing them, etc.

The questions you really need to ask are:

A) Is he better than any PG that we have?

B) Can he make open jumpers, the biggest weakness on our team IMO, as far as our PG's are concerned. Brooks can do this, but he is on the small side and Marbury isn't.

C) If it doesn't work what have you lost by giving him the boot? Will our season be ruined in the timeframe that it takes us to figure out it isn't a fit?

D) Will he stunt Brooks growth by taking minutes from him.

D would be my only concern. I think a PG that could simply be relied on to hit his open jumpers (ala Kenny Smith or Fisher) would be a great addition to our team. That is worth the small risk IMO.

 

it would be funny if steve nash ended up in new york. i guess that would also be scary for teams in the east. i dont think phoenix would take marbury back tho.

d'antoni and nash made a great team.

 

You left out one team he played for (Marbury's presence indicated in bold):

1996 Olympics Basketball Men - Gold
2000 Olympics Basketball Men - Gold
2004 Olympics Basketball Men - Bronze
2008 Olympics Basketball Men - Gold

 

Marbury deserves what he's getting. He had talent, money, and opportunity... And he blew it so many times you could not possibly count. Why? Because of himself. I would be jailed up in a desolute asylum in Montana or something before I'm ludicrous enough to want Marbury.

 

I don't care about his game. Even if he played like Chris Paul plus Lebron plus Kobe, i would not touch him with a 300 yard pole. Basketball's a team game, and nobody's better in the league than Marbury at killing off teammates slowly, one by one. Nobody.

 

Repost:

I hear ya on the "he kills teammates" argument. But again, how much damage could he do before the team gives him the ax? What's he gonna do...come in, call Yao a racial slur (which impedes his ability to play well after Marbury is cut), fight with Adelman over minutes (which impedes his ability to coach well after Marbury is cut), literally have a few fights with Artest (which impedes his ability to play well after Marbury is cut), and buy T-Mac some tamponds ((which impedes his ability to play well after Marbury is cut)??