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mar1juana Reform Approaches the Tipping Point

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by GladiatoRowdy, May 6, 2009.

  1. GladiatoRowdy

    GladiatoRowdy Member

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    No, it is about both nature AND nurture. Dump the greatest seeds in the world in a plot of dirt and you will get decent ditchweed as it will pollinate if you don't cull the males. If grown outside, there is the chance for pollination from any other weed growing in the vicinity. Pollinated weed is not "good herb," it is ditchweed.

    Potheads, given the choice, will buy from a store. See California for proof.
     
  2. JLEW1818

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    If your making drugs, you probably are smart enough to be pretty damn successful.. then again if your making drugs, your prlly banking. just sucks when u get caught.
     
  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    I do, we will save money, we will incarcerate fewer people, and fewer kids will be able to acquire pot. Crime will go down and we will take a major funding source out of the hands of organized criminals.
     
  4. JLEW1818

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    so the statement

    "weed leads into other drugs"

    agree?
    disagree?
    Irrelevant?

    I'm not arguging, just asking a question. ;)
     
  5. GladiatoRowdy

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    When I made the 12 hour claim, that was for a "decent sized" grow, not one or two plants for personal use. I believe that most people with the know-how would get jobs in or start enterprises in the mar1juana growing industry.

    I don't discount that there might be a few people who would grow, but you seem to be assuming that every single pot smoker would set up grow lamps and tinfoil in their closets, which is simply not the case. The ones with any money at all would simply buy from the store just as they do beer and spirits, which are similarly easy to produce as pot.
     
  6. GladiatoRowdy

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    Disagree. There is a correlation, but causation has never been shown. There is a much stronger causal link between tobacco and hard drug usage than with mar1juana. There was an article in this thread that I quoted that said just that.
     
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    No, ditchweed requires no attention because, as the name suggests, you can throw some seeds into a ditch and get some viable plants.

    As MoonDogg alluded to, potent weed can be grown quite easily today from seeds that have evolved, through many generations of human selection, extremely high THC content. First time growers may not get the best results, but they'll get something. If they use good seeds and follow any step-by-step manual you can find online, their harvest won't be something to laugh at. Or maybe it will... :D
     
  8. JLEW1818

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    k.

    So data proves that people who smoke cigarettes or dip, do harder drugs than people who just smoke pot?
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    The point is that pot does not cause people to try harder drugs.

    The data shows that there is more chance that someone who uses hard drugs also concurrently smokes cigarettes.
     
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    Well most people don't grow their own now, so I don't see a reason why they would post-legalization. Driving home with a sack you got from a dealer is far riskier than having some plants and lights in the corner of your closet.
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    They'll get ditchweed unless they have a VERY good manual. They will also need an indoor grow area, hydroponic equipment, etc. As I keep saying and as we have seen in Holland, most people will simply go to the store and buy it, just like they do beer.
     
  12. JLEW1818

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    I can agree with that.

    I don't know, i just stay away from the smoking and dipping and ****.

    I do drink alcohol, but I don't drive.

    That's just me, and everyone is different.

    Is there ways to test for people driving high?
     
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    Exactly my point. Most people would simply buy it from the store.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    Blood tests for everything and a breathalyzer for pot.
     
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    they really have breathalyzers for pot?
     
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    Cali? You mean all those thousands of illegal grow rooms set up statewide? Or were you referring to all that weed grown in national forests?

    Genetics, genetics, genetics. Buy seeds that are guaranteed female that are suited for the growing medium you plan to put them in. It's not any harder than a tomato plant.

    I don't know how many people will grow their own, I'm not trying to argue that point. I'm just simply saying.....its real easy....and there's hundreds of thousands of people already doing it for personal use. They're not gonna stop.

    BTW...I saw a posting in another forum, some grower from Humboldt. He is against legalization because it will cut into his profit. These are the people that will stop growing.....commercially anyways.
     
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    In 2002, officials in Holland were beginning trials.
     
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    I cited California because they have a system where the bar to be a certified "medical" user isn't too high. Many areas have dispensaries where you can get whatever you want in whatever form (food products, oils, or smokable buds), and from what I understand, the dealers in those areas are being squeezed out.
     
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    And those trials have resulted in....?

    There's no effective way to test a driver to see if he is stoned. That's a huge problem. Even if you were to take them to the police station to give a urine and blood test, mar1juana metabolizes so much slower than alcohol that you would get strong results for someone that smoked a joint a few days ago.
     
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    Maybe because it is illegal and much easier to get caught with?

    If you have curious neighbors or want to have any guests over your house that you want to keep your grow operation under wraps from, it becomes very hard to do. Some people are even afraid of their electricity providers noticing a large amount of electricity being supplied to your house. You also run the risk of word getting out that you are growing mar1juana, making you more susceptible to burglary.
     

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