I mean that all of those guys are all-star pedigree and caliber players since some guys clearly deserve to be an all-star but miss the cut for a variety of reasons. Siakam was an all-star just this season, that season he was still one of the best bigs. But even if you say he's not then that's what, 1 out of 20? My only point is that bigs still play a crucial role in winning championships, if yours isn't good then your definitely going to find that out in the playoffs. honestly I have no issue with people preferring Green to Mobley but just the idea that we shouldn't draft him because of some myth that we don't need a great a big man to win is just incorrect. If we don't get one in Mobley, maybe Wood can develop into that, but we're going to need a really good big man eventually.
I wonder if in a week the tables will have turned again and everyone will be on Mobley (or Suggs') jock?
mid we’re looking at 3 pointers… he took 28 shots from areas he sucked at shooting at… and only 10 shots from areas he was good at shooting at. Which meant in the whole it was a below average 30%. maybe he gets better at those bad spots? Maybe he just stops hacking from those bad spots? Maybe he gets worse front he good spots and just benefitted from small dampen size? who knows…. there’s no real discernible pattern to this shot chart and nothing that makes me go wow amazing or oh **** horrible. I bet the synergy statistics are more useful for him.
Right, well Draymond also won DPOY which literally makes him an elite player. Even though he doesn't fit some archetype from 40 years ago doesn't mean he wasn't their center, their big man or wasn't an elite player. Size is relative anyway, at 6'8" 240 he would be the biggest player on this Rockets roster by quite a bit. At what point do you call someone a "big"?
We do need a really versatile big. But good to great perimeter players will make an average big look better. I don't think the myth is that we don't need a big man. I think people are saying the perimeter players is more important than big man.
If Mobley played like Draymond I'd be all for drafting him. That dude is mean, guards all 5 positions and us basically a PG. Draymond is a big that plays like a PG.
And I strongly disagree and think history shows that. You need rebounds, you need rim protection. I think the positions are equal, that's why every championship team has had a really good all-star caliber big man on their team. But you do know too that that is the projection for Mobley? That he can guard all 5 positions and passes extremely well and can even put the ball on the floor? He might not become that, but really, a lot of reports flat out say he's a potential DPOY.
I'm seeing so much hype for Jalen Green online and barely anything for Mobley. I'd be happy with either one but I can see there being a huge backlash immediately after the draft if Rockets pick Mobley. I think the best possible outcome is Detroit getting involved in all this Jalen Green hype that they take him #1 and we get Cunningham.
so why have 9 out of the last 10 finals mvps been a wing player? Only one being Dirk. Nba has made a shift the last few years as more threes are being shot the impact of a big man is less and less.
Probably the same reason in the NFL the MVP is usually a QB...doesn't mean you don't need an Oline to win games and championships.
First reaction after getting #2 for me was to take Mobley. But the more I thought about it, best case scenario is he is Anthony Davis. AD is just not a #1 option for a title team. On the Pelicans he was able to win 1 playoff series in 7 years. The best big men in the game: Jokic (MVP), Embiid, Gobert never saw the conference finals. I think you have to swing for the fences with a high lottery pick. I don’t think 5 years from now we will be saying, “Man if we just drafted Mobley, those Finals MVP’s he won could have been here”. I get the feeling with Jalen Green that we would absolutely regret it. I personally think Green has the best opportunity to become a face of the league compared to the other top 3 guys this year. You have to have a dominant guard to win at a high level. I mean none of us really know but I just think you go for highest upside at this point and if he is a bust, you live with it.
This is a terrible philosophy. This is not the last draft you will have and just like AD both Beal and Lavine can be looked at as not #1 options on a title team. So why have those dominant guards not won at a high level?
Because it takes bigs years to get their conditioning right in the NBA. Giannis still doesn't have it. Remember Clints first few years? Couldn't make it through most games with heavy minutes until much later. Those are big bodies.
but we all know the qb is more important. So you agree the wing player is more important by that analogy,
Do you know that Mobley average 34 minutes a game? That is more than any other big or most guards in this draft. Mobley not only plays a lot of minutes but he does so without fouling out OR getting hurt.
Did not think about this, I keep thinking about Green and Mobley and who I don't want to face in the future as the team that passed them up. I sort of feel like Green will ball and be a high scorer but Mobley will make you pay for years to come as the anchor on his team. This makes me feel so much better, not having Mobley in OKC....
