Well Americans were not evacuated either. Maybe Israel evacuates it's people more often because they are often the main targets in attacks.
I love these urban legends that somehow Israelis know an attack is coming.... After 9/11, many Muslims claimed that all the Jews were evacuated beforehand. Well, let me tell you something. I went to the funeral of a former co-worker who was Jewish, and that must have been on staged event right? I mean his wife crying and all those people. But hey - there wasn't a body, so it must be suspicious. Clearly he's living happily someplace right? Makes me sick.
Here is the story from SANA [rquoter] CAPITALS Sept 17 ( Agencies) Five Israeli suspected of involvement in the recent terrorist attacks against New York Trade Center and the Pentagon were detained four hours after New York attack, the Israeli Haaretz reported. Haaretz reported that the five Israelis were on the roof of a nearby building taking pictures; they were investigated and interrogated for three days, one of them has another European Nationality and was suspected to be a member if the Israeli Mossad. Al-Manar TV Station said that 4000 Israelis working in the World Trade Center in New York weren't present in their work on the day of the attacks in implementation for orders from the Israeli government. There were no reports of Israelis or American Jews missing in the attacks so far. [/rquoter]
A good friend of mine, her brother-in-law was lost on 9/11 in his office at Cantor Fitz....he was Jewish, and his family was very well connected as a large donor to Likud....I even saw photo frames in his apt. taken of him w/ Sharon when he had visited the States in ~Fall 2000....so I call nonsense on this rumor that Jews were evacuated from WTC...
my reaction is that personally that is who the enemy is for the people of that area. They are influenced 24/7 by images of Israelis attacking their palestinian neighbours... Its just like the immediate point of finger towards Muslims after any bomb/attack... see: oklahoma bombing for an example... The Jordanians need a scapegoat, and Israel is as good as any.
Ok yes please make large generalizations. Because a few people have blamed Israel doesn't mean the whole country has. Yes there are radical extremists who still refuse to believe that there are members of islam who actually do bad things. But to make a sweeping claim that somehow the country of Jordan and its people are all pointing the finger at Israel is a mistake. When 9/11 happened here, there were groups of people that thought it was some Jewish conspiracy or that the government staged the bombing. That doesn't mean that a majority thought that way as well.
On the other hand, you need to be careful dismissing these views as those of a few radical extremists. Without poll data it is hard to know how many hold what opinions. A couple of years ago there was a poll that showed over 60% of Palestinians supported suicide bombings against civilians in Israel and even more thought that any people caught planning terrorist attacks against Israel should be set free. People in the Mid-East have a very negative view of Israel (big news, right?) and that in combination with some of the misinformation that Mid-East news outlets, especially government controlled news outlets feed the people can result in some very funky opinions being held by way too many people. Hell, in America more than half of the people thought Iraq was responsible for 9/11, so it can happen to anyone.
Well I have a question. I wqonder what would have happened if Israel did know about the attacks and warned everyone beforehand, wouldn't that just cause more people to b4e absolutely convinced that they did it? Israel just cant win when it comes to dealing with the Arab community
i know you are not defending the terrorists but using the point you are using to illustrate how people could believe israel did it is pretty weak. it's like nitpicking any little reason to blame someone for something...kind of like the husband looking to blame the wife for whining too much during the game so he had to beat her. its pretty well known that israel is self serving but that doesn't mean it can be used to show they did the attacks. plus israel has a way of making it's attacks well known. they don't really mess around with small attacks and instead usually go in trying to demolish things.
yeah but how many terrorist attacks like this has israel committed in recent history. i don't know of any suicide bombings by israelis in foreign nations. however i do know of many suicide bombings by radical "muslims".
I do know of many innocents killed by the Israeli Army... who happen to be "jewish" I honestly dont see the point of your post...
Yes terrorism isn't justified and yes Israel probably hasn't engaged in attacks of this magnitude. But their paranoid security measures (i.e. the wall, security checks, etc...) have created a hostile and horrid condition that has only compounded the structural problems of the Palestinian territories. The Palestinian authority hasn't really been an angel in all of this but Israeli policy has really helped to breed massive resentment not only in Palestinian territories but also in the greater Middle East. Also, Israel hasn't exactly been perfect in its anti-terrorism efforts. A lot of innocent people have been killed and a lot of homes have been destroyed. Both sides have messed up big time and have completely mishandled an already terrible situation but don't pretend Israel's actions haven't had sever impacts on innocent people.
my point is that the israelis don't use suicide bombers to attack nations. blindly saying that israel is behind the attacks is ignorant. if israel was going to attack you would know it because they would be pummelling the hell out of whatever they were attacking. can you site any incident of the jews attacking foreign nations in this manner? i can't.
From the perspective of an educated and worldly person, yes it's ignorant. I agree with you. But look at it from their perspective. They're poor. They've been forced to house millions of palestinians that have been forced to relocate and many of those Palestinians aren't living the greatest lives (some of which can be attributed to israel's security policy) Its ignorant but sadly there are people who don't have the privilege to see global media and the only thing they see are the hardships of those directly part of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I'm not condoning this but I think a recognition of why it happens is important.
So, the use of suicide bombers makes the attacks worse? as compared to missiles and tanks? Israel has pummeled the hell out of many cities for the sake of getting to one or two "terrorists" and it has also attacked outside its borders... I really dont know what good this argument is leading to, so i shall not post further in this thread. adios.
did i say one was worse? no i just said it is ignorant for people to assume israel was behind the attacks when they never attack with suicide bombers....simple as that.
The difference is targeting military vs. civilian targets. The suicide bombers are going after civilians. The Israeli military is going after terrorists. I love how you put "terrorists" in quotes as if to imply that a sucide bomber isn't really a terrorist. Just goes to show another person who thinks these guys are freedom fighters or something. Yeah - killing people in a cafe is reallly heroic.
