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Manu Ginobili

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Ditty, Dec 17, 2010.

  1. JuanValdez

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    I consider the jump-stop to be a travel, but I know the NBA doesn't do it that way. I guess he's okay on NBA rules, but it still looks like crap and it's still a stupid rule.
     
  2. JayZ750

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    maybe you should marry him then? you could have little manu babies and everything!
    ;)
     
  3. pippendagimp

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    any steps taken after picking up the dribble must be in the direction of the basket in order for it not to be a traveling violation
     
  4. durvasa

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    Step back jumpers aren't legal?
     
  5. pippendagimp

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    not only was his jump stop going the wrong direction, but he took 1 step before the jumpstop....meaning he took a total of 3 steps.
     
  6. pippendagimp

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    step-back jumpers where the steps are taken in the same motion and during picking up the dribble are legal.....not after you've already taken one step beforehand with the ball cradled in your left hand :grin:
     
  7. R0ckets03

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    Gross...i hope he flops all the way back to Argentina. He took flopping to another level.
     
  8. Pieman2005

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    So the NBA doesn't consider it traveling.. and nobody who actually plays basketball considers it traveling.. but it's traveling
     
  9. thething

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    The defender touched the ball on this play and that's why it's not a travel.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    you guys are getting off topic. what has stood out to me is his bald spot. everytime he turns his head, i can't take my eyes off of it.

    dude needs to shave his head and become the argentinian MJ.
     
  11. dobro1229

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    Please Lock....
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    Well, this part isn't true. Do this in a streetball game and then try to explain it was a jump-stop and you'll get laughed out of town, at best.
     
  13. heypartner

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    This is incorrect. The video quoted the Rulebook wrong, or not the most current Rulebook. Here is the actual text from the NBA Rule Book:

    The word "progressing" is referring to someone who receives a pass while moving (in any direction.) Dribbling doesn't require a jump stop to happen in a specific direction. There is another section that explains how you are allowed to take the prescribed amount of steps in any direction.

    So, Ginobody didn't travel based on the direction of the jump stop. Where he might have traveled is the "simultaneously" part of the ruled required of landing on two feet for your "second step."

    In slowmo, it doesn't look simultaneously, but it's close.
     
  14. heypartner

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    Not if your jump-stop precedes you skying for a slam dunk. I actually think that's how it got started. You knife through the defense on step one, then gather yourself with a jump-stop (and jump) to slam the ball.

    btw: the problem is the NBA allows two steps. The jump-stop is merely considered the second step.
     
  15. TexasTofu

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    Manu's always been a beast, to bad he decided to murder AB's ankle :(
     
  16. Someguy1229

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    Yeah, he's so awesome...

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  17. Easy

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    I think the whole idea of "swallow the whistle and let them play at crunch time" is lame. A non-call is as important as a call. A wrong non-call is as damaging as a wrong call. If you always go the non-call direction, that is essentially telling players you can play recklessly without consequence in those situations. That's rewarding certain type of plays (reckless/physical) and punishing other type of plays (disciplined/finesse).
     
  18. TexasTofu

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    I agree, its ultimately the Ref's fault for not being consistent from game to game, quarter to quarter, and crew to crew.
     
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    I remember a few years ago Ginobili injured a player by flopping into him. I think when you injury a guy that way (or in this case by sliding under a guy who's already in the air) you should be suspended until that player is able to play again.
     
  20. heypartner

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    The non-call here is Melo was completely under control and just blew past his defender. His shot was going in under every circumstance. Ginobody has to do a half back-flip to get the call. That's bullsh!t. Yeah there was contact, but watch the video as Ginobody throws his feat above his head. Just stupid. That's a no call, by every definition of last second play.
     

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