...He's had 3 surgeries on that neck in less than 2 years, and will likely need more. If he's medically cleared to play, that's one thing, but the inherent danger of this type of problem being recurring or resurfacing is the definition of "injury prone" or "injury risk". Remember, It wasn't a particular freak hit that caused this injury with Manning.
Yeah, i thought it's already been well established that there was no way in hell he could have made it running in. this was right when schaub started to scramble...the safety is already breaking toward Matt. No way schaub is running anywhere.
Coming back to this "Who is more likely to play 16 games" question. Yes, Roethlisberger has played hurt, and yes he sucked. Now, the injuries Matt has sustained aren't typically ones you "play through". To his credit, he played on a separated shoulder and a broken foot. That ain't no sissy stuff.
Wow, even Michael Vick might not have made it in with that crappy angle he had to take. (I've never seen a still shot of it, as I was at the game)
yeah, realtime it did seem like a "WTF are you doing?! RUN!" moment, but after the replay it was clear he had no chance Not to say he didn't make a mistake on the play, but his mistake was not him not running.
from what i've heard, if manning is cleared to play, there isn't any more danger of this happening to him again than there is to somebody who hasn't suffered the injury. is this incorrect?
the throw was bad but after the replays of it I was more angry with jacoby. He stopped running and gave up on the play. That guy has no brain.
That'd be news to me. Far as I know, "medically cleared to play" means that his surgery has healed and he is at no (obvious) significant or excessive risk of injury from football related activities. However, like I said already, this injury was not the result of football related activities.
You guys are taking homerism to a new extreme. I like Schaub. He's a solid QB, but has flaws. Were talking Peyton "one of the best of all time" Manning. If doctors clear him to play and he wants to play here, you sign him. There's no debate.
When he is physically unable to throw across his body, there definitely is debate. He was medically cleared in the sense that playing football would not carry a risk of breaking his neck (which wasn't the issue in the first place). His being cleared had N*O*T*H*I*N*G to do with the state of his impaired nerve, which still has not recovered to the point that he can throw the ball at an NFL level. There is NO certainty that the nerve will ever fully recover, that it will recover "enough" in time for the season, or anything else. It might, it might not. Depends on how much of the nerve was deadened by the long-term pinching by the herniated disc.
Damn, Dreesen was wide open in the back of the endzone. That play should have resulted in a TD to Dressen, ala Shaub to AJ in the Kansas City game.
so peyton is not a high risk now, for having four neck surgeries and right now, the nerves on his arm are in very bad shape? obviously he didnt miss a game before that, but that doesnt matter now. he is one hit to have a career-ending injury.
roethlisberger was cleared to play by the doctors after his ankle injury, but he didnt play good. gronkowski was cleared to play in the superbowl, but he didnt play like he played during the regular season. so even if he cleared by the doctors, you dont know how his arm would respond in the actual game.
He was running the other way. The throw to Jacoby was already awkward as he was throwing while pretty much facing left. Trying to throw that much farther behind him to where Dressen was might've been impossible.
1. No way Ben sits out the game, dude foams out the mouth (especially around young women in clubs and bathrooms) and plays through any injury. 2. It's the freakin superbowl. The guy had a high ankle sprain. Any other game and he sits. 3. This is why you do your due diligence. No team is going to sign him without getting a decent look at his throwing mechanics, strength and range of motion. When you have a superior work ethic like Manning does, your ability to return from injury is greater than those who don't.
