If it was any other game even the Conference championship, you shake hands, but in the finals (of any sport) its ok not to shake hands, and in football, in NBA the two players can be really close at the end of the game, so they can shake hands, but two QBs, one has to go to the other side of the field to shake hands. But I dont think that you dont shake hands, because you really wanted to win the game, so if Brees lose, and he hand shakes, thats means that Brees didnt wanted to win the game?? Thats stupid. Everybody wants to win a SB so bad, I bet nobody says this: "ok I really didnt wanted to win, just got here for fun". And im glad the Saints kicked Manning butt!
There's no BAD sportsmanship here, press conference: <object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ykj1VenHifY&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ykj1VenHifY&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object> To all those that say it's MAYHEM and "difficult" to shake someone's hand after the game during the Super Bowl: 1. The game had been decided with more than 30 seconds to go. 2. All players or anyone who wishes to "shake hands" could be on the sideline ready to do so. 3. It's not difficult to at least make the effort to find the opposing and winning quarterback or coach to congratulate him. 4. If anything, you can at least WAVE "good game" and point at the winning quarterback to acknowledge "you beat me fair and square, good game, sir." To Mister Former Super Bowl MVP: You might be the best quarterback ever, but you AND YOUR TEAM lost. You got beat, you sore loser. I'll be the first one to demand that my Texans go shake your hand when we lose to you since you're much better than us. But you're not better than DREW BREES, mo fo. Go shake his hand or at least make an effort. You suck, Paidtons Manning.
There are some pretty big differences between the two: 1. You don't have a madhouse on the field to sort through. 2. Everyone else on Cleveland was able to congratulate the Magic. The real question to me is whether the other 50 players on Indy went and shook hands with the Saints? If so, then Manning should have as well and none of the excuses hold up. If not, maybe it's just not normal procedure and there's nothing wrong with it.
We're on the same page. 90% of the people in the LeBron thread were calling him a bad sportsman/selfish, but apparently it's alright for Peyton to do the same. The situation is nearly identical and many people are having different reactions to each. Makes you wonder why? To be honest, I think there is some subconscious feelings rearing their heads, but there's no proof and arguing about it on the internet won't prove anything.
LeBron didn't even want to congratulate Dwight after the game like over the phone, he left the damn arena and trashed his team... pathetic. LeBron was a sore f'in loser.
There in amount of subvert amount of racism here. Its called sportsmanship and neither lebron nor peyton showed much of it.
Hah. Nearly everyone in this thread is going to disagree with you, but I completely agree. Key word there being subvert, but people won't even see that.
Is there anyway to post the LeBron thread link to compare? LeBron caught a lot of flack when he did it. So did Bill B. I'm not suprised Manning would have media folks make excuses for him. Some are still blaming Wayne for that intro, or proclaiming Manning led his team to the ring they got.
Can you answer whether the other Colts congratulated the Saints, and/or if it's common practice to do so in the Superbowl? Last year, did Warner cross the field to find Big Ben? Did Brady do it for Eli the previous year? If not, the situations are not remotely comparable.
If you know the answers, just post it. I've already posted I'm not going to argue this though, so choose someone else to ask questions if you like.
:grin: You know, man... you didn't have to quote my entire rant... [LOL]. Just say what exactly makes you say "you fail"... The way I see it, there's no effort to try to recognize the other winner, and a phone call is a COWARDLY way to not get photographed or video-recorded accepting defeat by Mr. Sore Manning Loser. EDIT: You know what...? Even further, his actions on the bench (throwing whatever it is he chunked) after that missed field goal made me think he was a sore loser more than the missed hand shake.
The stickler to me is that when the Cavs are winning he's causing a scene dancing on the sidelines and having fun. But if they're losing he's on the verge of a tantrum, throwing bottles or getting techs. It's more than reasonable (from the losing team's perspective) to regard dancing midgame as sort of "rubbing it in" but then if they lose he just does a "screw you guys i'm going home." Not cool.
I want to know why Peyton is always sulking or yelling at his teammates. I bet Reggie Wayne was sick of it and took a bad route on purpose.
I don't know the answer - which is why I said that whether the Peyton and Lebron situations are comparable depends on that. But it seems that if people are going to say that the two should be treated the same, they should know if the situations are in fact similar.
I understand what you're saying, but verge of a tantrum? Does he do that often? He had that "knocking cups of Gatorade into the crowd" meltdown a week or so ago, but he does not "often" have tantrums. This is sports and people will get angry at different points throughout the season, just like you and I do at our jobs. They are human. If you think LeBron is always on the "verge of a tantrum", then can you explain exactly what you mean then? He has his moments, but as far as players go, LeBron is very calm and collected 90% of the time. My version of verge of a tantrum when they are losing is Kobe. Flailing his arms everytime he is hit, yelling at the refs, etc. Dude even looks angry. To be honest, I think the dancing thing just gives people that dislike LeBron a reason to trumpet as their reason for disliking LeBron. It's harmless to me, but others see differently. I don't see it as him dancing to embarrass the other team, I see him just dancing to dance. Understandable that the other team's players wouldn't like though. Haven't heard many players take issue with it however. I more read about how people on messageboards hate it.
Yeah, neither do I. The only thing I can recall is in the past, I believe I've seen the losing team congratulate the winning team, but I don't have video evidence to support. Regardless, you think there is a big difference because it is the SuperBowl and it's a hassle to get to the winning players. I think it isn't that large a difference to find Drew Brees, at the very least, to congratulate. We will have to agree to disagree.
Old Lebron thread. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=169853&highlight=lebron+james+sportsmanship I think the real difference is that Lebron skipped out on post game interviews which opened up the floodgates for him to be ripped by reporters. Bad press will do nothing but hurt your image with fans creating more of a backlash.
