Manhattan District Attorney intensifies investigation of Donald Trump

Needs vs doing are different things.

Martha Stewart didn’t need 40k but went to jail over 40k.

Beside that, ...bank, tax and insurance fraud may also being look at.

 

its clear you don’t give a damn what trump does or whether he breaks a law. My point is simple - your notion of whether and when an investigation should occur is nonsense. You just proved the point because (1) it is clear you don’t care whether trump breaks the law, and hence (2) there is no point, in your view, of investigating him,

 

I didn't pretend **** while some of you still pretend he's a Russian double agent

 

@fchowd0311

I defend the falsely accused because i never want it to happen to me

 

most of Trump's campaign was not funded by him. He has huge debts from the campaign. Those are facts.

Your accusation that I'm going by feelings is an odd one since I haven't offered an opinion on this issue.

 

Who says we are pretending?

 

You know who didn't pretend?

Tyrese.

 

So was he falsely accused? You said there was no accusation at all.

Then, when the actual crimes were pointed out to you, you asked why you should care. You're lost.

 

If this Russia thing is such a big deal - where are all the indictments, convictions, sentences and pardons? Can anyone point me to a single one?

 

They are merely dreams of a socialist.

 

He was falsely accused of being a Russian spy. I got accused of defending him in general

There is no accusation in this situation, just fishing.

Whatever about Stormy, i really don't care at this point

Since you're lost, i have generously provided you a summary

 

Thats a pretty bad summary LOL

 

"He is intelligent , an underachiever. Alienated from his parents with very few friends. A classic case for recruitment by the Soviets".

 

Trump isn’t and never has been a Russian double agent. Trump publicly asked for and gladly accepted election interference from Russia. It is debatable whether that is a crime.... What Trump is guilty of is obstruction of justice.

Because people like Biden, McConnell and 3/4th the Senate do not want to face future scrutiny of their ill found wealth, Trump will likely be shielded by the President and Washington to avoid the precedence of a former President facing criminal charges.

William Barr is already trying to save his fat gut from the possible chopping block by scurrying away after it became obvious Trump couldn’t use the DOJ or the Courts to steal the election.

I am sure there are several Biden’s just chomping at the bit to sell influence to support another mansion in Delaware or a ragging drug habit and heroin addiction.

 

Pretty fair take but I’d clarify a couple things:

-Trump will be shielded from prosecution because prosecutors will know that our court system is not setup well for trials of presidents. It would be nearly impossible to find an unbiased jury out there and no prosecutor would want to bring those charges. The system is setup though to go after him financially when he’s exposed as a criminal like we saw with the Trump university case. I think that’s what we have to look forward to with the Trump org and his tax schemes. I believe that’s really what Trump is afraid of more than anything ... having to lose his fake org where he runs a non violent mob family enterprise.

But it won’t be Biden ordering prosecutions or ordering a stand down at DOJ. The system itself sort of orders a stand down on its own when it comes to public figures such as Trump who cannot get a fair trial unless the evidence is just overwhelming which with Trump it’ll be just a bunch of financial schemes they’ll fight and fight and fight. Our system also isn’t capable of handling someone who has the ability to fight and drag out the court system which Trump abuses regularly.

-No Trump is not a Russian agent the way that shows like the Americans or other Hollywood films would lead you to believe. But we know he’s compromised and we know he’ll do Putin and every other dictators bidding (Hello MBS... hello Erdogan... and just yesterday with Netanyahu). The guy is compromised and a sucker to the worlds worst tyrants and criminal leaders... like does the difference really matter??? The guy is a national security risk and still will be outside the presidency.

 

There is no evidence that Trump is a Russian agent but there is plenty of evidence that he is a Russian asset. There is a big difference between being a an agent or an asset.

 

or a Russian kissass. Lots of kissing ass down from Putin to Trump to Cruz, Paxton, and Crenshaw.

 

Yes a prosecution of an ex-President will be very difficult and that is one reason why Ford pardoned Nixon and in our history we've never had a prosecution. Trump as he himself brags has overturned a lot of norms and isn't like any other President. While it will be very difficult and divisive the impunity with how Trump is assaulting the principles of this country and trust in it's institution calls for consequences.

While Trump has paid a political consequence losing the election that he has doubled down on assaulting the norms of the country as he goes out other than his handling of COVID-19 is the most damaging thing he's done in this Presidency. Trump's actions will be a precedent for the next demagogue with pretentions of authoritarianism to step in and unless we see Trump held to account the next time it may succeed.

I agree it's a a very big long shot that Trump will ever see the inside of the jail cell. If he is bankrupted though from fines and forfeitures along with going down in history as not only the first elected President to be impeached in his first term, had a senator of his own party vote for removal, lost the popular vote twice, but also go down as the first ex-President to be criminally prosecuted that will say a lot about the strength of our system.

 

I hope they sue his sorry ass and he spends the rest of his life in jail or in some sort of purgatory for all of the damage, death, and anguish he has brought on to others. Worst president ever. And a self centered prick and a sore loser.

 

I think it's obvious that Trump defers to Putin. Just go back and look at the Helsinki news conference. But. we don't know why yet. It could be that he just identifies with him even envies him for is absolute power .... The narcissist wet dream.

I think the State of New York will pursue tax fraud cases, though it may charge Trump Org civilly.
The forensic accountants can probably tell them whether the judgements would pay the expenses.

But if there are criminal charges Cohen would testify to and paper trail evidence that is unassailable (from Trump lawyers , ha, fat chance), You might get a criminal plea deal/