1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Man, the Rockets will suck next season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by A-Train, Aug 2, 2003.

  1. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    36,439
    Likes Received:
    9,388
    I don't think anyone is saying JVG is a basketball GOD, just a good coach. Rudy was also a very good coach, but his style just didn't suit a young team. His style was more suited for a veteran team. Everything I've read about JVG gives me the impression that he's much more of a 'teacher' than a 'players coach'. Just what this team needs IMO.

    We've got a young team, a budding superstar at the center position, a different style coach, and (here's the clincher) we didn't exactly lose 60 games last season.
     
  2. A-Train

    A-Train Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2000
    Messages:
    15,997
    Likes Received:
    39
    Oops! Did I write the Spurs instead of the Kings? Teehee! Nice to know that some of you will find miniscule things like that to pick at. I want all you optimists to do a couple of things for me. I want you to look at the old bruises and scars on your head after all those nights of banging your head on the coffee table while watching the Rockets bumble their way through games last season. I want you to go out to your poor dog Fluffy’s grave, the same dog you killed after hurling your TV remote across the living room and hitting him in the head with it while the Rockets were losing the final playoff spot to Phoenix. After you do these two things, then tell me honestly that this is a playoff team. There are too many weaknesses on this team to make a playoff run

    Steve turns it over too much
    Cuttino never met an 18 foot fadeaway that he didn’t like
    Taylor must has some severe allergy to paint, because he never goes near it
    Rice thinks that his only purpose in life is to shoot three pointers
    Yao is too much of a pansy-ass to take over games, and he gets dunked on more than a cup of coffee in a doughnut shop…

    And that’s just the starting lineup!

    Moochie is quite possibly the worst player in NBA history…and that includes Roderick Rhodes!
    Lebron James will get more playing time in his first game next year than Nachbar got ALL of last season
    Cato really hustles….for about 10 minutes per game. Nice bang for you buck there
    Griffin’s jumper is as flat as Bob Hope’s EKG

    Now, you’re telling me that a bald coach and a former Clipper will vault this team into playoff contention? Last November, when people were predicting 5th and 6th seeds, I was saying that this team wouldn’t make the playoffs. I’m standing by my prediction, and the rest of you will have to deal with a little dose of reality. And no, we DIDN'T miss the playoffs by one game last year. Those last three games we won were the equivalent of summer league games...

    As for why the Clippers will overtake us, it’s simple:

    Security: Brand and Magette are both under long term deals, as Odom will soon be. Don’t underestimate the power of financial security.

    Olowokandi is the most overrated player in the NBA. He’s slow, uncoordinated, and is rivaling Joe Smith as the worst #1 pick ever. The only reason anbody thought he was worth a shotglass full of spit is that the previous best center the Clippers had was a 500 year old Bill Walton with artificial knees. The Clippers are better off with Spud Webb at center.

    Miller is a LOSER! He was a loser in Cleveland, a loser with the Clippers, and he’ll be a loser with Denver. He took a team on the cusp of the playoffs and drove them into the ground. Even his teammates last year publicly called him out, saying they were more comfortable with Jaric running the point. Addition by subtraction. The Clippers will be in the playoffs, and the Rockets will once again be watching on TV…Write it down!

    Finally, I’d love to say that I’ll be hanging around here more often, but my new job doesn’t afford me the chance to surf the net for six hours a day like my last job did. Don’t worry sydmill, I know you REALLY love me, though! :D
     
  3. SLA

    SLA Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,021
    Likes Received:
    0
    LOL to that last post. :D
     
  4. sonique15

    sonique15 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2002
    Messages:
    727
    Likes Received:
    1
    A-Train,

    I respect and read almost every post you write man, and I usually agree w/ it, but im gonna have to disagree w/ u here.....

    The Rockets are a team that are talented enough to make the playoffs this season as high as the #6 seed. The jazz are not gonna make the playoffs this year and that leaves one ope playoff spot. The rockets are much more talented than the ALWAYS SORRY clippers and even the blazers for that matter. The only team i see standing in our way for the 6th spot will be the Suns. Marbury, Marion, and Stoudemire will provide maybe the only challenge to Yao, Cat, Stevie and the rest of the Rocks in obtaining the 6th playoff spot......

    write it down, u heard it here first.

    On that note.....sonique15 is out.
     
  5. Yetti

    Yetti Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    9,589
    Likes Received:
    529
    Hillboy if some of the progress isnt acheived then there will be trouble at the end of the season. If the Guards dont play a new tune and help the Team Game to flourish, expect Francis and Mobley to out and the Club rebuilding arround the Center position in 04/05.
     
  6. myco

    myco Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    280
    champagne and popouri?? in this forum?? the same one that constantly hates on francis, mobley, and every other rocket exept yao? yikes..
     
  7. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    20,932
    Likes Received:
    13,077
    I'm sure the Clippers will be better thanks to a decent coach and some financial security for two or three of its players; but our team will have improved at least that much, probably more, so why even worry about the Clips?

    As for your attitude, A-Train, I guess we can take it with a grain of salt, but it still sucks. I hope you don't actually call yourself a fan of the Rockets. Predicting they'll be bad just so you can say "I told you so" is not cool.

    Unless you're hoping for a reverse self-fulfilling prophecy...?
     
  8. Sane

    Sane Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2000
    Messages:
    7,330
    Likes Received:
    0
    A-Train is hilarious, he really is. I mean, he thinks people are going to consider this a real prediction.

    You shouldn't heard his posts last season before the Portland and Utah games. He was so worried about what he'd say. God must really love you and have grudge with Rudy...haha.

    We'll see this time around.

    If you really think that the Clippers are going to beat us out of the playoffs, then you're running out of excuses to hate on the Rockets man..

    As much talent as the Clippers have, let's take a look at their roster:

    Kaman/Ely/Zhi Zhi
    Brand/Wilcox
    Odom/Maggette
    Maggette/Richardson
    Jaric/Dooling


    What are the 2 most important positions in the NBA? You say we have the worst Forwards in the league? Well the Clippers have the worst PG rotation and the worst C rotation in the entire league. Ofcourse, this is if they infact will match Miami's offer. Let's see what you think if they actually lose Odom.
     
  9. Panda

    Panda Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2002
    Messages:
    4,130
    Likes Received:
    1
    A-Train:

    You are calling out Miller as being a life-time loser because he played on losing teams. What about Brand. The same thing applies to him. If your logic is true then how in the whole wide world would the Clippers eclipse the Rox with a loser Brand leading their way??? The Rockets can beat the Clippers with Turbo, Clutch the bear, Lisa Molasky, the water boy and JVG on the court.
     
  10. stab

    stab Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2002
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    34
    The Clips??? The Los Angeles Clippers!!! lol.. Just because Sterling is finally spending money doesn't mean they will get into the playoffs. They still have Brand and Magette, and possibly Odom, but they lost their starting PG and C, the two most important positions on the court.
     
  11. Rocketman15

    Rocketman15 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2001
    Messages:
    299
    Likes Received:
    1
    The Clippers beater than us after losing their starting PG and C and not gotten anyone to replace them That's either a joke or its the stupidest thing I have ever heard:D lol
     
  12. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    36,439
    Likes Received:
    9,388
    70 replies?

    Mission accomplished. :D
     
  13. Rocketmike

    Rocketmike Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2003
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Did you really say Denver and Cleveland? I can see Cleveland maybe, but when Denver is still losing 50+ games in 3 years because they can't surround Anthony with any talent do you really think he'll stick around? Lets not forget GS and their Webber rising up days.
     
  14. Rasselas

    Rasselas Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    1,604
    Likes Received:
    120
    True. But if the Rox sub in Moochie, they're in trouble.
     
  15. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,940
    Likes Received:
    2,343
    Oh, I understand cycles very well. In fact, one could very well argue that the Rockets have been trapped in a "cycle" of mediocrity for the past 8 years. Look at Dallas. They were trapped in their "cycle" of pathetic ineptness for over 10 years. It took a determined owner and coach to lift them out of the muck to where they are today. Did they make mistakes? Most definitely but they have been able to show positive improvement on the court and in the standings where it counts the most.

    My point is that the time has past for excuses from this team and organization. If they are as committed to winning and excellence that they say they are, then we should be seeing the results on the court this season.

    Oh, and the first EXCUSE that needs to be dropped is that this is a "young" team. Of the starters, only Yao can be considered a young player as this is his 2nd year.
     
  16. LeGrouper

    LeGrouper Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    5
    That's what it takes Hillboy, about eight to ten. What do you expect? That every team in the NBA is going to be a dominant playoff force every year. Not the Bulls, Not the Lakers, Not the Knicks, not in a salary cap sport. In Baseball and in the Premeirship it is possible because the Yanks and Man U can put up big dollars every year to have the best teams but it is simply not possible for the NBA. Have patience, stop whining about mediocrity when your team won the championship within the last decade. Only three other cities can say that.

    And you have to be completely daft to say that the Rockets aren't young. They are one of the youngest teams in the NBA and their core is aged as follows:

    SF - 26
    CM - 27
    EG - 21
    YM - 22
    KC - 28
    MoT - 26

    No one over thirty. Michael Jordan's age at time of first championship - 27. When SF is 27 our whole team will just be ripening to be great. Yao is a great player and gained infinitely in confidence after his first year. In another season he will be unstoppable. Shaq is already in decline. Duncan will not be able to defend him. JVG will get him the ball. Naysayers beware the Rocks are Rising!
     
  17. LeGrouper

    LeGrouper Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,423
    Likes Received:
    5
    You get alot of brown nosing around here and you aren't even a mod. Wow A-Train. You don't even have a five digit post count like HeyPee or RM95 and still you get the red carpet.

    You're a funny man Train, but you won't be able to stop my mighty Chinaman when he gets to stompin' next year!
     
  18. SLA

    SLA Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,021
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jealous? :) A-Train is Running with Scissors! Who is giving him the red carpet?

    You are a funny man yourself!
     
  19. rvpals

    rvpals Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2002
    Messages:
    2,283
    Likes Received:
    1
    I totally disagreed with you. Other than the not signing of Posey and a quality PG, we have pretty good personnels on the team.

    JVG, checked
    Good system, checked
    Cat & SF, checked
    Stronger Yao, checked
    Good big man coach, Patrick Ewing, checked
    New Uniform, checked
    New Arena, Checked

    There's so many good things going for the Rockets, I can't wait for next season!

    My predication:
    Lakers
    Spurs,
    Rockets,
    Mavs,
    Wolves,
    Suns,
    Blazers,
    Clippers
     
  20. edc

    edc Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2000
    Messages:
    3,129
    Likes Received:
    42
    Ohhhh....*SATIRE*....I get it!

    Very funny.
     

Share This Page