Man Kills Calf With Shovel After Cowboys Beat Saints

Bet this won't stand up on appeal.

 

As sad as that stupid r****d is, a lot worse things have been done to cows without a slap on the wrist.

 

The people who feel his sentencing was too light are incredibly ignorant. Their holier-than-thou stance is hypocritical and laughable. The man should've gotten 60-90 days at most (with community service and education on animal cruelty).

CaseyH gave a good example of how oblivious consumers are when it comes to killing cows in the meat industry.

Pick up a damn book and read about how sometimes the air pellet doesn't completely kill the cow but just paralyzes it, and how it it still alive when they rip the skin off it or take a chainsaw to its belly or legs.

This quick, puritanical condemnation of a stupid man's actions signal a cultural divide where some Americans equate animals on the same level as human beings. That is BS. Your fellow man will always be an order above in the animal hierarchy.

After watching the *****ty Texans @ Eagles game at a sports bar and hearing some comments about Michael Vick not deserving anything for his past, I'm pissed.

The man more than paid his debt to society. A dog is just a dog. Although I know people who sleep with them, kiss them, and let them lick their food, and treat them as a family member, in the end the dog can never be worth more than a human being, even if he's a stranger.

/rant

 

btw, this rich CEO from Austin only got 10 days for cruelly killing 32 bison (of which 26 were pregnant cows).

Justice in America is different for those with deep pockets and connections.

Denver Post Article

 

If this man dragged a child into a parking lot and then beat the child to death with a shovel, I think his penalty would be far more severe than 5 years or even 40 years. So how is this putting animals on the same level as humans?

 

Because this animal he killed is slaughtered daily over a hundred thousand times in arguably as cruel way he killed this one.

this is at most a case of theft.

 

Delicious veal....

 

Animal cruelty/torture is a serious crime, and I'm not equating animals to humans in saying that. Its not the same thing as theft. I know abhorrent things happen in slaughterhouses, and I don't see how that's any sort of an excuse. If you think there's an inconsistency there, I would fully agree. You don't resolve that inconsistency by saying animal torture isn't a problem, you resolve it by enacting appropriate regulations in the slaughterhouse.

 

Yep, 1.12 cattle slaughtered/second, so about 97,000/day, or over 35 million/year.

Source: http://www.animalvisuals.org/data/slaughter/?y=2008









These will all provide a little perspective for those of who losing sleep over the lenient sentencing of this man.

What he did was terrible, but it's just a drop in the ocean compared to what the meat industry does everyday, which almost all consumers support by buying meat from Walmart, HEB, or even eating at restaurants.

 

Which is the exact opposite of sending a guy to prison for 5 years for a single event. (as opposed to the millions per year)

 

Exact opposite? Don't follow. The person should be punished for torturing animals, and slaughterhouses should be regulated more tightly. How are those opposites or contradictory?

4 people in this thread are saying the punishment of 5 years is too harsh (with one saying it should be treated no differently than theft), while one person said its too lenient and it should be 20 years. No one came close to equating animals and humans. Just a little perspective for you.

 

First off, I disagree that this was more cruel than a slaughter house.

Secondly, even if you think it was more cruel than 99.99% of slaughterhouse kills, then that leaves over 100 dead animals per day it was not more cruel then.

So you logic goes with, OK fix both! Well you could try to fix the meat industry, raise the price of meat (and drastically raise the price of poultry) then achieve 99.999% clean kills then perhaps only a dozen per day? and a few hundred chickens per day?

A cow is a walking package of beef. Just because you decide to not eat it does not make it cruel.

 

I'm not saying its worse than a slaughterhouse. And your argument against fixing both is based on economics. That's a separate issue. I still think that brutality and torture towards animals is an evil, whether its happening in slaughterhouses or its being done by some dipsh-t in a parking lot for kicks. I don't believe you condone animal cruelty everywhere just because the economics of the meat industry makes people reluctant to regulate against it.

 

No, you missed the part where even if you work your ass off you will still have cases of worse killings DAILY. Do you disagree with that?

 

I'm not going to disagree with that, and I don't see why it matters. That's an institutional problem. That doesn't mean the killings are OK and it doesn't mean that by extension animal killings/torture outside the slaughterhouse are also no big deal.

 

No, it is a practical problem of killing such a large volume of animals daily. You can't fix it.

 

That's what I would refer to as an institutional problem. Very difficult to fix, unless people decide to stop consuming so much meat. The people that engage in it may be numb to it, and meat-eaters may prefer to look the other way, but I still think it is horrific what goes on in there.

I guess you're saying that if we accept it there, we should accept it everywhere? I don't think we should "accept" it anywhere. You try to minimize it as much as possible while also being sensitive to the economic impact it could have on people. It doesn't follow that we should give people a pass for torturing animals for no good reason.

This is becoming D&D, and I should probably stop.

 

Those two statements collide. This guy going to prison has a pretty large economic impact. And he killed ONE.

This is painting an impossible rosy picture. If everyone cut their meat eating in half then this guy would be going to prison for doing what only happens what, a million times per year in this country and is not illegal?

 

What % of people in prison are there because of animal cruelty? I could be mistaken, but I don't think the economic impact is significant.

By the same token, war is an ugly institution that many people believe is necessary. Should we not punish killers because war predictably results in thousands of civilian casualties which we tolerate? That's what your logic suggests, but I don't think you'd answer 'yes' to that. We would say that war is different, because it is done to protect American interests. Civilian deaths are an unfortunate byproduct of that. Well I could say something analogous to that in response to your question.

I think what this comes down to is you believe that animals are just a piece of meat, and there's nothing fundamentally wrong with brutalizing or torturing them. I don't see it that way. Agree to disagree I guess.

 

You're a sick piece of s**t.