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Man kills 9 people at black church

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mr. 13 in 33, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. Deckard

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    No kidding. What a bizarre post.
     
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    I don't feel it would ever be right to use it. I'll admit I feel less bad about it being used in this case, but I don't ever think that the penalty is okay.
     
  3. edwardc

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    Just asking what if it was someone who killed a bunch of kids.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Again, personally, I would want them dead, just as I do in this case. But I realize that what my own personal emotions want and desire isn't necessarily the best for society at large.
     
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    When would it be appropriate to torture someone to death as a legal punishment?

    Most civilized people in modern times, I think, would say never. That is, there are some forms of punishment that they believe should never be implemented by the state, regardless of how heinous the crime is. For some, any application of the death penalty, even if "painless", falls in that category of punishments that are off limits.
     
  6. Zergling

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    He's white though. We wouldn't be having this conversation if he has any other skin tone.
     
  7. Zergling

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    Death penalty doesn't have to involve torture. You could argue life in prison (e.g. treating a human like a caged animal at a zoo) is also cruel and unusual punishment. That's not much of a life to me.
     
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    Didn't he murder his mom or am I confusing him with another shooter?
     
  9. durvasa

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    I know. My only point there was that we can generally understand why there are limits to what sort of punishment should be permitted even for the most unfathomable crimes. From there, it's a matter of where that bar gets set. And many people (though not so much in the US) would draw that line at taking away another person's life against their will as an authorized punishment.
     
  10. durvasa

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    I think you're thinking of the guy who shot up an elementary school in Connecticut.
     
  11. edwardc

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    I can agree with that it may not be what's best but some will say eye for a eye.
     
  12. edwardc

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    I see your point but there are many that feel the punishment should fit the crime.
     
  13. durvasa

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    I know, "eye for an eye".
     
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    Why is this even being bumped right now? The case is over, he got the death penalty (rightfully so), isn't that the end til his execution? What else is left to debate or discuss?
     
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    Simply were now talking about the death penalty if it should be used or not some feel like i a eye for a eye some say let them sit in jail.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Fair enough. For me, I'd much rather have my tax dollars used to put scum like Dylan Roof to death as opposed to being used to feed him and shelter him so that's where I stand on it. Put those people down like the dogs they are so we can start to forget about them.
     
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    I totally agree with you on that those dollars can be spent on better things.
     
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    Well there are studies that show that executing prisoners can actually be more expensive than keeping them in prison for the rest of their lives. For me, I don't care if it's more expensive if that happens to be the case, I prefer to spend the money executing the prisoner as opposed to letting them live out their days on the taxpayers dime.
     
  19. edwardc

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    A 20 cent bullet is all that it will take.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    In theory, sure. In reality the process is much more complicated in order to make sure as possible that you aren't executing an innocent person.
     
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