Man doesn't follow police commands, gets popped after reaching into car in Tulsa

Sounds like a good way to ensure more police fatalities. Then again, it's not you in harms way so it makes sense that you'd talk a big game. It's always those who run their mouth like that who end up being the people who pull the trigger the fastest when they are in those situations.

 

This is never going to end. It seems to be getting worse. There is no way this is ever going to end...especially with people becoming more defiant and not following police instructions. This is just a vicious cycle.

 

This is the mentality that has ruined us. Of course it will lead to more police fatalities but it will also lead to far fewer innocent civilian deaths. That should be the most important thing.

What has helped lead us to what we have now are people like you and the OP that don't care about civilians that are not their kind as evidenced by the classless and disgusting thread title here.

 

Fair enough, at least you admit that your goal is for more police fatalities. I would suggest that people simply follow police instructions, don't attack police, and don't use PCP and there won't be problems. I think that's much easier than asking people to be alright dying just so they can give someone on PCP every opportunity to kill them before responding.

To each their own I suppose, but I highly doubt you'd have the courage to follow what you are suggesting others do. Hopefully you never end up in that situation but I'd bet you'd talk a lot different afterwards if it ever did happen.

 

My goal is for less innocent civilian deaths. That begins with changing police training and tactics to not shoot first and ask questions later to any imaginary threats that their biased minds can come up with. That is the goal. I want police to serve and protect civilians above themselves. You are too narrow minded and racist to understand that any innocent civilian death is a tragedy. You stand right behind disgusting posters like bigtexx and rocketslegend. Mentalities like yours are making a mess of us and our country.

 

There are very few "innocent civilian deaths" as is so it's not like there are many to eliminate and creating more dead cops won't really help. The true "imaginary threat" is that of police being a threat to an innocent civilian.

I do agree that any innocent civilian death is a tragedy, but so is any police officer death. One almost never happens, the other happens every single day. I know you might be too brainwashed by anti-cop propaganda to understand that, but it is what it is.

Look at the 2 shootings in the news right now, both were instances where multiple felon ex cons were not following police instructions, one was armed, one was on PCP....those are your "innocent civilians" that you think are getting gunned down. Notice how that seems to be a trend with these kinds of things. The closest to a legitimate example of an innocent civilian gunned down by police in the last several years was the Minnesota case, every other case has been bogus or there were other factors that made it a legally justifiable use of force.

 

To put this all in context, if we're talking about all of the truly non-legally justifiable police shootings in the line of duty, you might be talking about one or two per year in the whole country. Sure, those are tragedies and the cops involved deserve to go to prison for it, but let's not pretend like the maybe one or two instances a year is some kind of widespread problem.

 

This is the problem. Police are taught to counter perceived threats with gun shots aimed to kill. That's the only thing that matters to police and it is wrong. You and the other alt-right posters back this because more often than not it's minorities (particularly black) on the wrong end of these encounters.

 

LOL, the ONLY time anyone should ever shoot they should be shooting to kill. Perhaps you watch too many movies, but you don't go around shooting to maim. First of all, it's a harder shot, secondly it won't stop someone from killing you. Anyone who knows anything about firing a gun knows that if you shoot, you shoot to kill.

Now what's really funny about this post is that

1. You suggest that I'm an "Alt right" poster, whatever the hell that means.

2. You are of the laughably mistaken opinion that "minorities (particularly black) people end up on the wrong end of these encounters when that's not what the numbers suggest. Actually the majority of people shot by police are white, it's just that no one whines and cries about white criminals getting shot by police because it doesn't further a narrative.

Now you might argue that black people are killed at a disproportionately high rate relative to their percentage of the population and that's true, but if you factor in that over 40% of cops that get murdered are killed by black people and over 50% of the total murders in the country are committed by black people, the numbers make a bit more sense.

You might want to get your facts straight before continuing to argue this.

 

Yes. Thank you for finally admitting a problem. Btw, this is equally as tragic.

 

Of course you conveniently cut out and ignore the "but if you factor in that over 40% of cops that get murdered are killed by black people and over 50% of the total murders in the country are committed by black people, the numbers make a bit more sense." part of what I said, but I guess I shouldn't expect people here to be intellectually honest.

BTW, I love how you respond to numbers and stats that completely disprove the narrative you were trying to push and you respond to that with one example of a non-justifiable police shooting as if that changes anything at all.

 

Just so we're clear though, I don't want to suggest that you are capable of being intellectually honest and are simply refusing to be. I acknowledge that it is very possible that you are doing the best you can.

 

Bias detected -- i'll wait for additional facts.

 

What in the actual.....

So wait...you are going with the "Majority of people shot by the police are white." ignoring that blacks are shot at a higher rate....

THEN

Use % and not totals to explain police murders? Wow. Talk about showing your bias.

 

No bias, I explained that he was wrong in saying that the majority of police shootings are of black people and I explained not only that the majority of police shootings are of white people, but I even pointed out that a disproportionately high percentage are black and I explained that black people also commit a disproportionately high percentage of murders not just of police officers but in total. Those who murder at a higher rate are shot at a higher rate by police. It makes sense to anyone unbiased enough to see it.

Do better next time.

 

You have no idea what you just did.

Right, you are right. More white people are shot by police, because there are more white people in the USA. Actually though we know that black people are MORE LIKELY to get shot by cops. Period. Whether they are attacking OR NOT ATTACKING.

Well that's true, but then why are you bringing up that the majority of cop shootings are white people? I can return and say that white people murder more people by total...right? Either you are arguing the totals or not, not pick and choosing for one.

As for your other point we've been through this before and you admitted that the police kill black people because of their skin color, so I don't know why you continue to argue this. Do I need to bring fourth the quote?

 

Pretty sure I do, but give it your best.

1. Of course I'm right, that should go without saying.

2. Yes, there are more white people in the USA, I'm not sure why you think this is relevant given that I spelled the whole situation out Barney style for you already.

3. Yes, black people get shot at a higher rate than other groups.....which is related to black people killing people at a MUCH higher rate than anyone else.....which I explained to you. Period.

Those who kill people are more likely to be killed by police....shocker!

Again, of course it's true, I said it. Should really go without saying.

The reason I brought up that the majority of police shootings were of white people was directly responding to someone who suggested that the majority of police shootings were of black people, which is inaccurate. I spelled that out for you already, how did you fail to understand that the first time?

As to white people murders by total, no, they aren't more. Like I said, 52% of the total murders in the US are committed by black people. We're not talking about rate, we're talking about number. I mean the rate is WAY higher too given that 14% is responsible for 52% of the murders, but black people murder so many people that they are the most by rate AND total number. Truly impressive levels of violence.

That's of course not what I said, but given your normal level of reading comprehension, it's not shocking that's what you took from what I said. I said that police are less likely to give black people the benefit of the doubt when their actions are threatening. That said, if they get shot, they get shot due to their actions, not due to their race or skin color.

 

1. LOL

2. Well because you kept pointing out your totals.

3. You still are ignoring the 39% stat of black people being killed by police when not attacking. Shocker! You ignore facts! Shocker!

Usually the dumbest people think they are always right, just saying.

The problem is you then used it to further your narrative with the whole "But you don't see anyone whining about it!" quip. So nice try, you also got your stat wrong.

52% is between a time period of 1980 and 2003. Recent stats are around 35%, so not sure where you are getting your numbers from. Looks like you are not always right.

Nope

You said nothing about threatening actions. You just admitted what you've been arguing against this whole time.

By the way this was in that thread where you ran away and kept avoiding and dodging facts like acid.

 

LOL yeah, a sample of 28 years (it was 1980-2008 BTW) is completely worthless, I'm sure a one year sample or wherever you got your 35% number from is more valid. Crazy kids these days can't follow along in simple conversations. Clearly the public school system has failed us.

 

Just correcting your stat I got from BREITBART, go figure.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/28/5-devastating-facts-black-black-crime/

By the way, good job ignoring the rest of the post! You seem to like to do that! Especially the part where you finally admitted that black people get shot more because of their race.