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Man Dies After Chokehold in Subway in NYC

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, May 4, 2023.

  1. Surfguy

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    If I saw a homeless guy screaming about being hungry and thirsty on the subway, then I probably would have given him some money and told him to get something to eat/drink. But, that's just me. A nice gesture from somebody like that probably would have calmed him down. I'll leave the headlock to somebody else unless he's coming at me or something. Of course, it could still end sideways but better than accidentally killing someone.
     
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    Some people are genuinely homeless, some people are antisocial assholes, and some are both. You can’t predict which person is going to hassle you on the subway.

    In my experience, giving money to the homeless does not do anything except encourage more people to set up on the spot.
     
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  3. Ubiquitin

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    Awesome. Often people get too comfortable with the status quo
     
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  5. Ubiquitin

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    We are in NYC for the weekend, and thankfully we are able to walk everywhere in midtown.

     
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    woke white people are the worst, black guy trying to get to work and they are holding him hostage

     
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    People should be comfortable in their day to day lives. Harassing them is not good and should not be encouraged.
     
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    love how they always have to mention someone is a vet or marine to try and get them some sympathy

    they’re doing the same thing with that murderer Daniel Perry who Abbott is looking to pardon
     
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  9. Commodore

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    stay out of blue cities

     
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    [​IMG]

    funny how they always leave something out to try and paint a narrative
     
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    Folks, the only good places to visit are Jacksonville and Oklahoma City
     
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    That guy is ill I wouldn’t worry too much about him. He is a self proclaimed racist (see the Clarence Thomas thread), presumes to know what people watch even when they tell him, doesn’t read more than a couple of sentences and impulsively comments left and right for 10+ hrs a week..

    i kind of feel bad for the guy tbh.

    imagine a lawyer going to defend his client, doctors and nurses trying to care for sick people, normal people trying to do their jobs. Encouraging impediments to their day to day activities is insanity no normal minded individual would advocate harassment
     
  13. tinman

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    Exactly
     
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    Oh no! People are being inconvenienced. What a ****ing tragedy. Nevermind that a homeless mentally ill person was choked to death in public.
     
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    I'm grunching this thread because I figured how the lines would be drawn here from the begining. That stated, has there been any real evidence as to what the dude was doing before he got chocked out? Was he stabbing people? Was he jumping into people's faces? Was he just annoying? Are the reports mixed? Also, wouldn't a full-nelson be just as effective as a rear-naked-choke?
     
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    Conservative Man Afraid of Big Blue Cities
     
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    If you want to protest for prosecution, go protest at the DA office. Mass transit protests are impacting the very people who might agree with the prosecution, alienating them.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Sure but also that's a bigger risk of getting a rubber bullet to the head.
     
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    You might think there would be more than this, but this is all I found. I guess those men felt that 'I'm ready to die' meant he might do something bad. IMO, this is clearly not enough to justify a deadly force procedure that ended up killing the man. It's not murder, but it's excessive force. The guy who used excessive force should be charged with something reasonable.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/03/nyregion/nyc-subway-chokehold-death.html
    "On Monday, a man who was riding in the same subway car went up to Mr. Neely, a 30-year-old Michael Jackson impersonator who was yelling that he was hungry and ready to die."

    Witnesses said that Mr. Neely was acting in a “hostile and erratic manner” toward other passengers on the train, according to the police.

    Juan Alberto Vazquez, a freelance journalist who was riding on the train and who shot the video, said the victim was yelling about being hungry and thirsty. “‘I don’t mind going to jail and getting life in prison,’” Mr. Vazquez recalled him saying. “‘I’m ready to die.’”
     
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    Also the core essence of America and how we have a population that disproportionately is psychopathic when it comes to crime and punishment due to the brainwashing of concepts of "rugged individualism" means that no... There probably aren't that many people sympathetic to their cause.

    The United States is like the Brazil of North America. Or Brazil is the United States of South America. Both countries have a population obsessed with punishment.
     
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