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Man Dies After Chokehold in Subway in NYC

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, May 4, 2023.

  1. Astrodome

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    Like I stated, my comments were not in reference to this event. I am not giddy. Let the wheels of justice turn.
     
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    Breh you’re from Houston
    You know everybody got a car even the cheapskates
     
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    Man do these people have augmented reality googles or something that lists the criminal history of every individual they stare at so they can properly determine if it's okay to murder them?

    These people are insane. They are mentally deranged. And as an American society we make these thoughts from these psychopaths as part of normal "civil discussion". Hell nah. People like commodore are psychopaths.

    "We just disagree man".... Ya about basic human value.
     
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    Rushing to judgement for political points is for clowns. If the marine wouldve used a firearm, all of the dems blaming him now would be blaming the gun.

    The mayor is right. Wait for the facts.
     
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    Probably responsible for people, especially public figures like AOC, to withhold comment and let the proper process play itself out, I'm sure they'd like that benefit if they were in a situation that warranted investigation and/or potential criminal charges.
     
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    Okay..... a lot of this is media driven.

    I have been in the Philippines, there is no way that it is REMOTELY as safe as the USA. No one even knows for sure how many people die, are tortured, beaten, etc. Also, a lot of crime is not reported in other parts of the world as vigerously as the USA. For example, Thailand is a place that I really enjoyed, but sexual assault and robbery is extremely common. It is estimated that only 5% of all violent sexual crimes are reported there, which puts it on par with estimates for North Korea and Iran. In India it is very hard to know what the crime rate actually is, as extreme violence is common place in a lot of areas of India.

    I would agree with you that the USA is less secure than Ireland, Japan and the Northern European countries. However, those countries are small in size compared to the USA. When it comes to crime, size does matter.

    Look at the largest countries.... China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, Brazil, Russia ............. all of those countries are worse than the USA.

    The proliferation of guns in the USA is scary, but almost all of the violence occurs in pocketed areas.

    There are a lot of things that the USA could do better, and yes - the USA certainly could do many things to make the country safer, but that comes at a cost that many Americans are not willing to pay. Most Americans in actual practice feel safe and are safe. It just isn't a top priority. At different points in time it has been a higher priority, and the government would take actions to decrease crime and then it would be less of a priority.

    The USA is basically Rome in a lot of ways. Everything is sensationalized...... Americans LOVE airing out their dirty laundry as well.
     
  8. Nook

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    Again, what country are you from?

    Violent crime rates have gone up some post COVID, but overall violent crime rates in the USA have gone way down over the last few decades.

    Also you talk about feeling safe in places like Thailand and the Phili outside of a few slums.... You lived in Illinois? Do you know how many people have been murdered in Chicago in 2023 that are not black or Hispanic? -3- Yeah, as of a week ago it was three people out of a population of 3 million people.

    Why? Because Chicago has a small handful of neighborhoods that account for almost ALL of the violence, and they are in areas that are like 98% black or Hispanic....... now, that is a separate issue that needs to be addressed (institutional segregation) but, even with gun ownership, 95% of Chicago is safer than even Scandinavian countries.
     
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    We have a robust news industry with a 24 hour news cycle to fill and nothing sells like violence/scandal/racism/corruption.

    We have problems with all of things of course but we are also a country of 330+ million and people perceptions of our problems will be framed by the amount of time and focus those things/events spend in the media sphere.

    The vast majority of people never have been, nor ever will be, touched by a mass shooting for example.
     
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  10. Nook

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    New Zealand is an island with around 5 million people in the entire country.

    For comparison, the greater Chicagoland area has well over 6 million people.

    New Zealand, since COVID19 has had a large spike in crime........ even with the fact that NZ is an island, and has a population of only 5 million people, the crime rate of the USA is only twice that of NZ.

    The USA is the most stringent in the world at reporting crime, but I would think NZ is similar in that regard.

    IDK, I have traveled many places all over the world....... and the only places I really felt safer than the USA was Japan, Northern Ireland and some of the Northern European nations. I did not feel safer in any of the third world nations, and I did not feel safer in places like Paris or Italy.

    I would likely feel marginally safer in NZ, but I also know that the vast majority of the USA is as safe as NZ, it is pockets in cities that are dangerous, and I don't live in those areas anymore and I also know, that even in those areas I am by and in large safe.
     
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    The United States is also great at making sure all the troubled people are in prison. 4% of the world's population and 24% of the world's prison population.
     
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    Awww, someone gunning for dat Tucker spot!
     
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    They do. And a drumline to boot.
     
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    I don't know about in Minnesota, but in California making a verbal threat can absolutely be a crime (California Penal Code section 422). There are other elements (it must be intended as a threat, it must be unconditional, the person making the threat must have the present apparent ability to carry out the threat, the person threatened must actually be in reasonable fear), but the basic crime is verbally threatening someone. Not only is it a crime, it is a "strike" and punishable by up to three years in prison.
     
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    I agree with you on Japan being safe. Everywhere that I went when I was in Japan, it felt safe and non threatening, and nobody steals your shiit too.
     
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    Does that stat include the incidents of young black males being arrested for talking back to their teacher because inner city poor schools treat displinary issues with law enforcement when the same act in a suburban white school would just result in after school detention?
     

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