Man convicted after Internet hoax leads to deadly shooting

Let's suppose this happened in Texas. I wonder if he would have been convicted.

 

Are Joe Horn's defenders on this board gonna stick to their guns this time for a black man?

 

I'm curious too, especially since they were actually on his property. He should have called 911 and stayed inside though.

 

Stay off people's property, and keep your mitts off their belongings, and your risks of getting hurt go down significantly.

In this case, trespassing is the only wrong doing of the gang of teens that I can tell. No theft or vandalism was done. Mr. White was pre-emptive in what he thought may happen, perhaps. Or, was he attacked while he stepped out onto his front lawn to demand they leave? What circumstances lead to the confrontation where the gun supposedly discharged in a struggle?

Details?

 

There are some similarities but I think the cases aren't that similar. This sounds like a situation where the kids were there to fight his son and not rob his neighbor so there seems to be more of a direct argument regarding health and safety as opposed to the Joe Horn case.

My guess is if this happened in Texas he would be exonerated by the castle doctrine as they were threatening his son on his property.

 

I would be interested in hearing more details. My guess is that while he and his family were threatened the prosecution argument was that deadly force was an inapropriate response to that threat. Also the prosecutor cited that he should've stayed inside so they were probably looking at it as that White ahd escalated the situation by coming out and confronting the teens with a gun.

 

I doubt that it would have even come to court. If you fear for you safety on your property, you can use deadly force in Texas.

 

lol good one.

Too bad this guy will likely see jail time, while Joe Horn never will. It's not a race issue, its a stupid law issue. Cowboy Horn was protecting his neighbors belongings, this man was protecting his son.

 

This is BS, if you're on someone else's property without invitation and threatening violence, that to me equals an invitation to what ever comes next.

The fact that this person will go to jail is a black mark on our justice system.

 

Cases like these really show the differences between the states regarding use of deadly force. Just going by the information given in the article to me there seems to be a legitamate self-defense argument on White's part but then again I grew up in Texas.

Even growing upin Texas though I still think Joe Horn was wrong and its one thing to use deadly force when people are on your yard threatening to beat up your son and its another when its your neighbors being robbed and they aren't even there.

 

He should get off on appeal. I wouldn't trust the police. They were probally busy getting donuts.

 

he got railroaded. I don't know the racial makeup of the jury but I'm wiling to bet there was porbbaly no blacks on there as that area is very white.

this should be overturned on appeal IMO

 

Haha. The KKK defense was brilliant.

Funny that he isn't being vilified on this board like Horn was. At least Horn called the police and tried to wait for them. I wouldn't vilify either of them though.

 

One big difference is that, if you believe the guy's story, there was a clear & immediate danger here. In Horn's case, the guys were fleeing and non-violent. There was no danger to Horn. In this case, there were a group of people approaching his house looking for a fight (if his story is true).

 

The guys in the home invasion crime-ring are non violent? They are much more violent than teenage kids wanting to fight.

 

Were they armed? Were they doing anything violent? They were walking (or running) away from a neighbor's house. Is that now considered violent?

At what point, exactly, was there a clear and present danger to Horn?

 

Those people being alive was clear and present danger. You give them waay too much benefit. They deserved none.

 

HAHAHA.. No they were black.

Admit it you know that's the reason.

Two guys who break into a house are dangerous. But two guys who are visibly unarmed (caught off guard about to drop the loot and run) does not pose a threat to a man with a shotgun - no matter how you spin it. Use common logic okay? Don't make ASSUMPTIONS yourselves by always saying "don't wanna give benefit of doubt". YOU don't know for certain what would have happened so don't make baseless claims.

The kid who got shot by the father called prior and said he was coming over to kill him. I guess the father should have given him the "benefit of the doubt"? You guys are ridiculous. Can't have it both ways, dig it?

 

If you don't assume home invaders are dangerous and deadly then you a just a moron.

I never said the father did anything wrong except for maybe not calling the police, like Horn actually did.

But to proclaim crime-ring home invades less violent than teenage kids looking for a fight is ridiculous. And claiming to think they were the KKK is just embarrassing.

This has nothing to do with black and white, even though you are just dying for it to be so. Get a life.