Barkley played with these great during the latter stages of their career. Dream was never the same after his knee surgeries in 96 and 97 and Drexler too was dwindling. Barkley came in during the twilight of the great sixers as well. Malone on the other hand played with an HOF throughout his entire career in utah. Put Dream and Barkley on the same team from 88-95 and i gaurantee you that team would have won a championship. Its just a sad part of the game when great players do not have the good supporting cast to ever win a ring
It's funny how the best PF played with one of the best PG's and never won crap. It's even funnier when that PF was the one wilting during all the big games. Malone is a nut-up, plain and simple. Duncan is already better. When has Karla led his team anywhere. Can you imagine Duncan with Stockton??
Again... Anyone have stills or clips of the Barkley tackle on Shaq? Any help here would be hot. Thanks... I've googled to no avail.
Malone is just pissed that Barkley didn't stick around as long as him, so Malone is now saddled with the title of being the biggest playoff loser of all time (most playoff games with no ring).
I have a long clip of nba fights that includes Barkley threw ball on Shaq's head then the two went on the floor, but it is so big, how can I get it to you?
The Sun's Finals team actually had some good talent... KJ, Ainge, Thunder Dan, along with Barkley... I think that Malone does have a point. Remember in 93 when Chuck was the MVP? It came right after he competed in Barcelona and was in the best shape of his life. If he had the work ethic that Malone has, he'd probably have be able to play in the league longer and at a higher level. Still hate Malone.
maybe a little off-topic, google WAS new and a leader in search world. It is now probably still the leader of websearch, but for the past one year, it had little improvement. Its international search sucked so bad. "google it" is already so yesteryday.
. That's why I said Malone is Dirk Plus. Dirk blocks more shots than Malone, but rebounds less and steals less. Not sure about that. Malone's jumpers are automatic. He also has a signature step back jumper. Dirk shoots at a lower career percentage, with more range though. Neither are truly dominant players. Both prefer shooting from outside to playing in the post. Both benefit from playing with elite pgs who create for them. Their strengths may vary here and there, but their style is pretty much the same.
I can't respect Karl Malone because he talked so much crap about Kobe after that All Star game and about how these young cats are ruining the game , then jumps up like a sreming b*tch on his cooattails trying to get a championship. I have never in my life wanted a player hurt, but nothing would make me happier than to see Karl Malone blow out his knee before the Lakers have a chance to win a title.
Malone is a great low post player with a range of about 18 ft. Dirk's post up game is pretty much non-existent. But he can hit his jump shot anywhere on the floor. Malone can only shoot when he's open. He has been open all the time using the PnR with Stockton and using opponent's double teaming Shaq. Dirk can shoot with a hand in his face and has a much quicker release. Have you ever seen Malone run down the court, catch and shoot at the 3pt line? Didn't think so. But that's how Dirk plays. Malone is a half court player. Dirk is a run and gunner. Malone is very physical down low. Dirk is soft. Malone is a very good passer. Dirk always looks to shoot. The only similarity between them are that they were both good scorer (in different ways) and good rebounder and neither one has won a ring.
Malone has a better post up game but is not a great low post player. Malone is mainly a face the basket player. Hard to believe that one of the all time greats can't create his own shot. Malone does whatever Dirk does except for 3 point shooting. Shooting with a hand in his face, shooting off balance, catch and shoot... you name it. Dirk has more range, but a jumper is still a jumper. I was saying Malone is Dirk Plus with an elbow, which means he's more physical. I stick with my original comment. Malone is a better passer, that's why I said he's an upgrade over Dirk. Malone always looks to shoot as well, that's why he averaged 31 pts in one season. [/QUOTE]The only similarity between them are that they were both good scorer (in different ways) and good rebounder and neither one has won a ring. [/QUOTE] Malone is an upgrade over Dirk but their main basis for making their name known in the NBA is the same, except for the elbows. Both are known for their face up game and shooting jumpers in variable ways with excellent touch. They also often get open by the creation of their teammates. Both base their game on their jump shooting as big men and lack true dominance in the post. The differences you listed only strengthens my point that Malone is a upgrade over Dirk with better passing and rebounding, while the physical aspect of Malone is also mentioned in my original comment. If Dirk plays more physical, rebounds better, passes better, bulks up and shoots better he would end up being Karl Malone with a 3 point shot, which led to my comment of Malone is Dirk Plus with an elbow. I don't see a point that dismisses my comment.
LOL. If Francis is taller, shoots better, dribbles less, has a turnaround shot, plus a court case, he'd be pretty much the same player as Kobe. Or, if Yao is faster, blocks more shots, more assertive on rebound, he'd be pretty much a taller Hakeem.
Yep, the gist of my comment is that Kobe and Hakeem are different type of players just like Malone and Barkley. If I have to build a team around one guy, I'd take Hakeem over Kobe.
Panda i think Malone's game has changes some since he first came into the league. Jordan turned into a just shooter also at the end of his run.
Agreed. It is like comparing Earl Campbell with Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith. Yeah, the other guys are higher on the greatist list because of longevity and sustained production, but at his peak the other guys were just brighter, more dominant and mearly impossible forces to contend with. Barkley in his peak pretty much was Malone and Stockton rolled into one, it just so happenend Jordan (the best non center to ever play) and Hakeem (probably the most dominant defensive player ever and top 4 center) were also peaking so Barkley never got a ring.
