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Make Tmac 1st option Yao 2nd

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Luckyazn, Dec 2, 2004.

  1. snowmt01

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    We should make sure Tmac has 25 shots and Yao has 20 shots,
    i.e., 1A or 1B. Role players, especially JJ and Taylor, should know
    their role: open shots and defense. Last nights I noticed a
    disturbing thing that role players refused to pass Yao the ball
    because of his bad shooting, even themself were not much
    better. JVG should take note and make sure they understand
    their role.

    Guys who want Yao be a pure sidekick to get
    garbage points need to watch old Magic or this year's Lakers
    to get a dose of reality. Besides, why would Yao resign to be
    a pure sidekick to Tmac? He would rather reunite with Rudy,
    who at least can play to his strength rather than Shaqilize him,
    and yes, Kobe is better and more aggressive.
     
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  2. JuanValdez

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    I agree with the sentiment since it was something I was saying when we traded for McGrady in the summer.

    OK, then don't run the offense through Yao. Don't run the inside-out offense. And not simply because McGrady could shoot blind-folded last night. Defenses have done a better job learning how to stop Yao than Yao has done of learning how to circumvent the new defenses. Let Yao collect rebounds and protect the paint. Let him take midrange jumpers on the kickout. Let him post-up if the defense decides to play him straight-up.
     
  3. JPM0016

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    I could not agree more. Tracy McGrady is the best player on the team as we speak; run the offense through him, until Yao finally gets it.
     
  4. mogrod

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    I agree to this notion to a certain extent. Like a poster stated, this need to be a "1A/1B" situation. Yao still needs to get his good amount of touches and shots, but TMac needs to be THE guy that sets everything up with his super scoring ability and passing skills. Yao is still developing and, I believe, will become a dominant post player soon. Hell, as long as the team is winning, Yao can be THE BEST sidekick in the league for all I care, but we need Yao to be the secong "go to" player once we see the playoffs. THAT is how you win playoff series.
     
  5. LegendZ3

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    Inside-out offense can add lots of benefits to the team. It can create open shots for not only T-Mac, but other shooters on the team. Only problem is that T-Mac is the only one who can knock down those shots right now.
     
  6. snowmt01

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    You can see the whole team played better with Yao in the game.
    With Yao out, we gave up 20 pts in OT, and Tmac began to see crazy
    double-teams. He commited turnovers and had rely on 3pters to get points.
     
  7. room4rentsf

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    watching the game yesterday was exciting and I think Yao would play better as the second option. Tmac drawing so much attention would only open things up more for Yao. He just couldnt find his shooting touch yesterday.

    yesterday was fun to watch TMac go off like that and I hope JVG continues to leave the handcuffs off our players and let them create.

    Yao still took 14 shots so he still got his touches but missed too many but im very happy with his rebounding especially his offensive rebounds. (he worked for those) .

    overall I was happy with the game
     
  8. happyricky

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    I don't know if you guys had the same feeling as me: when Yao fouled out, I said to my friend that Rockets better not go into OT or they have no chance to win. You all know what happend next. What I want to say is: Yao is the cornerstone of this team to win the Title.
     
  9. leroy

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    I had the same feeling. However, T-Mac should definietly be the first option. Yao seemed more comfortable not worrying about getting the ball every time down. He should most certainly get the ball quite a bit. If T-Mac is getting 25 shots, Yao should have 20. Everything seemed to flow better with T-Mac running the show.
     
  10. room4rentsf

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    agreed...

    everything flowed better with TMac being the focus and setting the tone and allowing Yao to get his shots in the flow of the offense. This doesnt mean ignore Yao when he gets good position but allow Tmac more control of the offense taking the burden off of Yao.

    Its tiring for any low post player to fight for position down low every possesion letting TMac go off like that allows Yao some time to rest. I also liked the way we pushed the ball up the court and showcased our atheletic guard play (TMac/Sura/Barrett) getting some easy buckets. We have been missing that lately this season..

    TMac in attack mode put the defense on edge and created opportunites for Yao and the other players. I feel like Tmac/Yao/JVG decided that Tmac is option 1 and Yao option 2 for now.

    As long as one of our stars sets the tone it opens up things for the other guy.

    J
     
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    Everything flowed better on offense for the Rockets because Dallas can't play any defense.
     
  12. room4rentsf

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    alot of people (analysts) are stating that the teams defense is better than previously. They may not be a top notch defensive team but they have alot of tall players with long arms and Dampier/Dirk manning the middle.

    J
     
  13. Aloe

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    I said months ago during the summer that T-Mac had to be the first option. You can probably search the board to see what I said exactly. I'm glad people are starting to realize it has to be Tracy's team and not Yao's. I hope Tracy realizes it.
     
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    I give you props for stating this.
    I'm going to give myself props for Juwan and Sura postings.
    I mentioned that Sura was the X FACTOR and his start last night proved it.
     
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    The Magic were so bad because TMac was not surrounded by any quality role players. Yao Ming is an excellent role player. And besides, things can't get much worse than now, anyways. And why would you assume that Yao wouldn't resign if he's relegated to being a role player. Does he seem like the type of guy who wants to be the focal point?

    And if you think that if he joins the Lakers, he's going to be a star, you're kidding yourself. You think the Lakers are all of a sudden going to change their offense into some half-court, inside-outside game because they have Yao? Kobe would never ever go for that. No, he'd still be a role player even if he joined the Lakers - just a better version of Mihm.
     
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    :rolleyes:
    Where did I say that Yao would be the focal point under Rudy?
    You are fooling youself that we could win anything worth a damn
    with TMac and a bunch of role players. Our championship hope
    lies in

    1) Yao develops into a superstar.
    2) Trade Yao for a superstar low post player, not some bums
    like Randolph.

    By the way,
    1) Kobe is better than Tmac.
    2) Rudy is a better mentor for Yao than Van Gundy.
    3) Yao is a star but not a superstar.
     
  17. gotoloveit2

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    What makes you think Yao is an "excellent role player". Is it because of his rebound and blocking abilities, or simpily his intimidating defensive presence inside the paint. Were Pippen, Worthy, McHale, and Dumars all "excellent role players" in your eyes. :rolleyes:

    Yao's ultimate goal is to win an Olympics medal in representing his country. If he doesn't reach his full potentials under JVG, he'll find improvements someplace else. But if he does, you bet he deserves the max wholeheartedly, just like any Franchise player. Only a fool would think Yao would be satisfied to be a "role player", even an excellent one. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. uac

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    We got it, Yao is role player, he should be offered MLE.

    Don't think lt's necessary to repeat it over and over
     
  19. Wala

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    I agree offense going to Yao doesn't he is going to shoot it. But didn't the Magic make T-mac first option last year and look at their record. Well! i think this is not working, we need one more trade to wake this lazy loser up.
     
  20. munco

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    It's not Batman and Batman, it's usually Batman and Robin.
    As much as people were saying there doesn't have to be a #1 option, that is just not possible. At this point, T-Mac should be the #1 option and Yao should be #2. Yao shouldn't be a role player, but Yao is just too inconsistent. I'm not sure if the game is changing or what it is, but the league's best players are the ones that have guard skills (KG, Lebron, Dirk) and most of then don't have great post games (exception Duncan). Look at Miami with Wade and Shaq. Wade is the #1 option on the team, not Shaq.
     

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