Why would you want a huge trade? Pretty much everyone who post is right. We are picking up steam and we just STEAMROLLED the Clippers. Bogans did his part and i'm not sure what Lampe is here for. In fact, Bogans balled it up, I know it was garbage time, but the fact that there was garbage time in a Houston Rockets game, is amazing. Keep T-Mac, Yao, Alston, Wesley, everyone!
the bogans trade has been 3-0 big i was thinking about the moochie trade. why in the hell did the hornets trade for moochie when someone like tony delk is just sitting around in atlanta.
If Seattle is really in as much financial trouble as they say and thinking about moving, maybe they would could be had for a Ray Allen salary dump. Ray will be making almost $19 million four years from now when he is 34, which has to concern a Seattle team that has no shot at the playoffs. Since we will never have the personnel to run like the Suns (unless we trade Yao, which I'm not advocating), getting one of the best shooters in the league would make us deadly in the half-court set, at least. Les would have to agree to pay the luxury tax in coming years, but he recently said he would, if a "special player" came along.
what about rashard? i think he's more obtainable than ray ray.. id love to have EITHER! an acquisition like that could/and likely will boost us up to a contender.
Why the need to make a trade when we're still goin to use the same "protect the paint" system? I'm telling you guys, its not gonna help us unless JVG gives in and adjust his game plan accordingly. It doesn't matter who we bring in if all we do is hang around the paint all day and rarely protect the perimiter especially behind the 3 point line. We have enough talent to win, but its up to JVG to utilize his player's strenght and counter your opponents weakness. JVG for some dumb reason thinks he's system works for every style of basketball which is moronic.
Lewis has got to be half a saint to make up with CD and Les. Besides, he doesn't play enough defense, and he does NOT want to take big shots. In our last match against them, he took less than 10 shots whole game if I remembered right.
Theo Ratliff in a nut shell: 1. Over 30 2. On a lengthy, fat contract 3. Injury Prone 4. Underachieving with his role on the team You want to pay a guy almost $12 million a year to average 4 PPG/5 RPG for the next few years? Damn, am I glad you aren't calling the shots.
I knew what you were getting at but taking on Ratliff's deal should be enough to scare you off alone. Nevermind the fact that Miles is an overpaid underachiever that wouldn't fit in. If your goal is to trade for something like $75 M of lengthy salary, I am sure there are better options out there for hamstringing the franchise than this proposal.
Name them. Any significant trade that we make to add a definitive starter and 3rd primary option will have to involve us taking on salary to get that player or giving away significant talent for another "risky" type project player that may or may not hit. Besides, everybody underachieves on losing teams. We have a group of underachievers. Yes, Theo has been hurt, and he is overpaid, but when he is healthy, he fits the mold of what JVG looks for defensively. He would be great help on players like Duncan during playoff time.
I think you missed my sarcasm when I suggested there were better options at taking on albatross contracts to hamstring this team. I do understand where you are coming from. In most scenarios you're probaby right, you would usually be required to take on a bad contract in order to obtain the player you want. The thing is: I don't like anything about this trade idea, even the "feature player" we would be obtaining. A SF that can't guard SG's whose biggest strength might be his ability to fly down the floor and attack the basket, a strength which would almost be eliminated in a JVG boring, half-court offense. Nevermind the fact that he's a knucklehead that gets injured every year. I still think my idea of sending Howard/DA to NY for Q-Rich/Ariza is the way to go.
ROFL. You think you are going to get perimeter defense out of QRich. Miles CAN guard perimeter 2s and 3s very effectively. He would be a monster to deal with on the defensive end with TMac on the floor.
Why does everybody have this mistaken premonition that Q-Rich either can't or is unable to play good defense? Is it because of his one-year stint with the Suns? One of the biggest selling points behind Phoenix even signing him in the first place was his all-around game. I'll admit, he became too one-dimensional in Phoenix's run-and-gun offense but he's not like that anymore! He's an underrated defensive player. The point is I would much rather trade for a guy like Q-Rich and have a trade-off in terms of mildly bad contracts than to take on a risky bonehead like Miles and the monster contract that comes with taking on Ratliff. Not to mention we would also be getting Ariza in the deal. I sure know after watching Boris Diaw kill us last night the kind of impact a young, versatile forward can have in a game.
Ariza is overrated extremely. He'll be lucky to be an average player in this league. And the reason I don't think QRich will defend is because he isn't defending in NY. If you aren't gonna defend for LB, why would you defend for JVG? The more I think about it, the more I think we are going to try to pry Harrington from Atlanta closer to the deadline, giving up the least amount possible. The closer we get to the deadline, the more value Al loses as a rent-a-player. I don't think Billy Knight wants to risk losing him for nothing. I think he's gonna deal him for the best offer. Swift may very well be the best offer on the table. Al would be our logical 3rd offensive and floor spreader offensively. Defensively, we may still need to make another move. It's hard to tell what Al would give us defensively in the West. But, he does provide us with options if we don't feel Swift is going to work out. His contract expires, so he could just walk, or we have the sign and trade possibility or he could work out great and want to stay here with Yao and TMac.
I wouldn't go as far as to say Ariza is "extremely overrated". I'm assuming you're referring to Isiah the Idiot being hesitant to trade him in any of the 1,000's of NY related trade rumors out there? I watch plenty of Knicks games (Don't ask me why) so apparently we're going to have to agree to disagree regarding Q-Rich's defensive ability/effort. Your opinion is he doesn't play D and mine is he's an underrated defensive player that does play D. We'll have to leave it at that. Although any way you slice it, I would rather see him starting at SG than David Wesley. Being any worse than Wesley or Howard on defense is practically impossible. I really hope we arent pursuing Harrington. We already have an older, not as athletic version of him in Howard. Sure, he could be a decent scorer but unless we could get him dirt cheap (keep our 1st-rounder, Head, etc) i'm really not interested in picking up another one-dimensional guy that doesn't rebound well. Theoretically, what exactly would we offer Atlanta anyways? I'm firmly against giving up our 1st-rounder for a guy that could walk at season's end. That is something I will never support. Which means all we could really offer is expiring contracts (which they don't need) and guys like Swift or Head. Personally, I really like Head ( ) and I really don't want to see him traded. He has potential to be a strong figure in our rotation for year's to come. So you would even have a tough time convincing me to give him up in any kind of trade like this. Unless it's an absolute no-brainer, including him or our 1st-rounder is a bad idea in my book.
Under Van Gundy Miles would be the defensive equivalent of Scottie Pippen with Scottie's offense minus the ball handling with better post up ability.
