"And a great many suicides, assaults and murders have resulted from this wrongheaded parenting." You say that about a wide range of things taught to kids by their parents Alot of things that . . .well . . .should be taught as being right versus wrong isht happens and no one .. . and no parent is perfect to selectively pick this one issue as a hate issue . .well is a little off There is major difference between saying HOMOSEXUALS are bad and saying homosexuality [the behavior] is bad Rocket River
On the base level, you and I agree. Only thing we disagree is that you think gays can't call it "marriage" and I think it shouldn't matter. Unfortunately the current situation isn't as simple. My original post was to point out that people who claim that they aren't against marriage because gays are so-called smearing a christian value. I think regardless of what gays would call being unionized, a lot of people would still have problems with it. Wish your solution could actually work.
I thought marriage was originally a legal and commercial construct: hence dowries and pre-arranged unions with economic and/or political motives. I figured the only reason religion got involved was because they used to run the legal system and government bureaucracy. Same reason they handled baptisms, funerals, coronations and declared all the national holidays (like Yuletide, Halloween, Saturnalia, Persian or Chinese New Year).
It's still demanding homosexuals to repress their desires and behaviors. If there is a difference, it's more minuscule and silly than 'major'.
We can sort this thing out, just leave trannies out of the dicussions for another 10,000 years Because transexuals are bad and confusing. We as people have progressed in a great number of things. I just still dont see how the man/woman gender thing is up for much questioning....Gays should not get denied rights and be subject to defamation, but a man and woman's gotta do what a man and woman's gotta do....is trying to blur all the lines and be like asexual starfish really in the lines of progress?
Your reply assumes all gay people have a unified agenda. It wasn't just one gay groups study she referenced. It was 21 different studies. Those 21 different studies are all as biased in one direction as the Catholic family studies are in the other?
I was raised in a very conservative Christian home. Homosexuality was always a "hot button sin" and was talked about more than things like murder, pedophilia, or blasphemy. People can say that they're teaching their kids to "hate the sin and love the sinner," but as big of an issue as this is in Christian America today, you are fostering hatred. My parents told me that even murderers and child molesters and abortionists and homosexuals were loved by God; He just hated their sins. That didn't keep them (and me) from treating those people like the scum of the earth. It wasn't too hard for me to shed that mindset once I met some gay friends and reevaluated myself, but I'm still upset for all those years of hatred and being "grossed out" by gay people. It's dangerous to condition minds like that, but I guess it's just called "religion."
If the message I got from your post was wrong, then your analogy fails. You compared an article by one women to a study by the Catholic family group. You mentioned that because she is homosexual that it was somehow the similar. The CAtholic family group is unified in their purpose, so if you don't believe that gay people are also unified, then it is irrelevant if the writer of the article is gay or not.
I'm not trying to be confrontational and maybe you're joking but how does one act black? Sorry, I just don't like stereotypes of any group. I hate it when somebody says act black, talk white, etc. If it is some big goof that I just don't understand then I apologize in advance.
i was just underscoring the ridiculousness of the "it's ok to be gay as long as you don't actually have same sex sex, or try to adopt, or want to get married.." position. i have no idea how one acts black, or gay, or straight, white and male for that matter.
it was just an attempt to marry the Gay experience to the Black Experience They go hand and hand like peas and carrot Slavery . . jim crowe. . . lynchings etc. . . Gays have had similar experiences . . . . Rocket River
Based on my beliefs, I think it is reasonable for me to be able to think that sex acts between two men or two women is wrong. It is also perfectly reasonable for me to be friends with those who participate in those acts.
