Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

Tony Mejia agrees:

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"@bigmoe1952:Think Hou would give DM and Lamb to Magic, plus picks, in 3 way with LA for Bynum?" No, DH blew up over-spend w/ Dallas threat.

 

Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
"@Raul_0417:How much different will HOUpackage be for DH vs AB? Can't be same!" Agreed. Morey won leverage battle. That's all this has been.

 

What does this mean we want Dwight over Bynum?

 

No, just that a straight up trade for Dwight would mean giving up less since the Dallas threat.

 

No, he doesn't agree. He's saying the Rockets wouldn't give up BOTH. He's NOT saying they wouldn't give up one (what Firebomb said).

 

So we would give up more to get Bynum?

 

No, we'd give back less.

 

we arent directly trading with LA and not facilitating any Howard to LA deals because we will be the trash dump for orlando while giving up our rookies while LA has nothing to give

 

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My guess would be this:
Martin, Tor pick, Morris and Jones
For
Bynum and Duhon

 

That deserves its own thread.

 

C'mon guys. Wake up. We are in a static vacuum here. Nothing has changed. Nothing. We're not paying as much for Bynum as we would for Dwight. We're going to give Orlando a better deal for Dwight straight up than we are going to give Orlando by being the pass through for Dwight to the Lakers. We are not facilitating a deal for Bynum here and Dwight to LA. It is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

They've been trying for weeks to get a better deal than the deal we have on the table for them. They can't find it. Fegan has been working his tail off trying to manufacture a deal that Orlando would accept that would be better than our deal. He can't do it! All that mess with Cleveland and the Lakers.....ain't happening man. They've already tried to rope Minny into taking Pau and sending out assets that can be pushed to Orlando. That's not better than our deal for Orlando.

You newbies need to calm down and relax. All these tweets....nothing has changed. We're simply in a holding pattern.

So, here's the synopsis of what has happened. This last meeting.....they've got to trade him. He's not signing, he's not staying. They've got to move him and get the best rebuilding package. There's no more going back to Dwight.

So what are they waiting for? Well, now they're waiting for our rooks to become tradable. And they are waiting to see if a team like OKC will come to the table with a possible a Harden/Ibaka package for Dwight. Or possibly to see if another team is willing to pop up with some sort of trade offer.

So what are the odds of that happening??

1. No other team has stepped up so far. Clippers have went on down the road like nothing is happening. They're not coming to the table with any kind of offer.

2. All the other teams have already put their best trade offer out there for Dwight and it isn't close to ours....except possibly Presti. Presti is too smart. If he's gonna make a move for Dwight, he isn't going to show his cards until the last possible second. When it becomes obvious that a Houston deal is agreed to, Presti will know about it.....and Presti will be given the opportunity to put his players on the table. If Presti decides to play, then him and Hennigan could agree to a deal in one 5-minute phone call. This is what you should be concerned about. There are no other scenarios available to Orlando.

Guys, we're just waiting for this thing to finish playing out, waiting for all the rooks to be available, so Orlando can construct the final trade.

 

Would you be willing to give up Lamb or Motiejunas

Also: I didn't know Dion Waiters had such a poor performance in the Summer League. I know, I know, its Summer League, but you would think the #4 pick would have an impressive showing. Dude came to camp overweight.

Cavs reach again with him? They could've had Barnes or Robinson.

 

In a heartbeat. There's not a single untouchable on this roster for me, if it involves Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum.

 

With all due respect, my guess is you're not a 26-year-old athlete in Olympian condition with daily access to the best doctors and rehab facilities in the world. It's night and day different than for normal folks like us. I'm not trying to downplay the pain you were in, but it reminds me of the Texans blogger who swore he had the exact same Lisfranc injury and Matt Schaub and said it'd take at least one year before Schaub was cleared (and possibly never).

If the qualified medical professionals that know the specifics of Dwight's exact injury, procedure and rehab believe he'll make a full recovery, I'm on board.

 

Huh. Just seems like a typical SG. Nothing about his stats sticks out. My guess is Morey offered a two year vet min, with the second year non-guaranteed. Can't be much more than that.

 

I thought he was a small forward. Good defender and thief. Can score the ball but terrible FG%.

 

Hmm...would we have room for him? I guess, if he signs, that leaves Gary Forbes in a bad predicament.

 

I actually could see the Rockets trading for Howard and then soon after (before the season starts) flip Howard and one bad contract to the Lakers for Bynum. Something not painful like Martin, PPat, White, the rights to Llull, the Toronto and Dallas first round picks, and the Bobcats second round pick. For Howard and 3 bad contracts. It certainly is not fair value for Howard, but he has done everything possible to destroy Orlando's leverage.

In a perfect world for the Magic, Hennigan would have traded Howard to the Rockets on draft day for Lowry, Martin, 3 first round picks and the Dallas first round pick. However Hennigan had only been on the job for 4 days and had not spoken to Howard, so no blame there.

Bynum to me, is a more comfortable fit than Howard. You never ever want poison leaking out of the locker room. That, as we have seen from the Magic is a franchise killer. The Lakers, unlike the Rockets, have enough franchise "mojo" to weather Howard's tantrums. However I could picture Kobe and Gasol chocking Howard behind closed doors. :grin:

In all fairness though I could see the Rockets going into next season as currently constructed. Probably get a top 5 draft pick. One painful season, but with an extraordinary cap balance sheet and a ton of draft picks Morey will have his glory days.

 

If we make any trade for Dwight/Bynum Dmo has to be included because the Magic will have no centers on their roster.

So Dmo will be included in any deal.