Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

Great post. I don't understand why Dwight hates Houston so much. It's almost like he had been beat up in Houston when he was a kid.

 

When Dwight said No to Houston the first time I was done with him...Some posters on this board jumped on my back saying he has no choice and he didn't say that...I hope now everyone sees this guy is bad business

 

Classic!:grin:

 

Does Dan Fegan have a beef with Houston, possibly?

Anyway, whatever path the Rockets choose has risk. I wish people wouldn't get so locked in on the one and only solution that will work, and be so sure that everything else will cause the end of the Rockets. Life doesn't work like that.

 

If he doesn't vehemently reject the notion of playing for the Rockets, he loses all leverage and most likely shuts the door on his LA/BK dream. It might not be so much that he hates Houston as much as he knows that its literally the only thing he can do for leverage. I'd wager that once he realizes that he can't be a Laker or Net, he'd sing a much different tune.

 

This exactly.

 

Not so much a beef as an extra multi million dollars in glam coast shoe endorsements. Once in Houston, $20-$30 million says Fegan will warm up to NASA and Galveston after the season

 

I don't think he hates Houston. It's just that he wants to go somewhere that has a better chance at winning a championship immediately.

 

Well if you think they are our rivals then you don't really understand what a rivalry is. When most of the fanbase actually doesn't give a flip about another team, that really isn't a rival.

I guess the Lakers are the only team in the west that the Rockets would have to go through then? Screw getting better. Lets spite the Lakers and instead of having a phenomenal core to build around and a great start at building a contending team we'll be able to say "Lakers didn't get Dwight! Haha!" all the while Lakers will still be a contending team...so in reality we will have achieved nothing.

Also that the Lakers key players are all near the end of their careers any ways. They'll have to find another superstar to pair with Dwight (which they will) any ways.

Lakers will always attract stars. Worry about making your team better piece by piece. No team is unbeatable.

 

I would gladly take Bynum but what I am willing to pay would go down.

KMart, TJones, PPat, MMorris, Expiring Contracts Toronto and Dallas picks. Thats it. I would only be willing to take back JRich along with Bynum.

They would not get their hands on DMo, White or Lamb

 

Dwight Howard's plan to sign with Dallas next summer makes trade from Orlando problematic


As appealing trade scenarios for his franchise player shrink, Orlando Magic general manager Rob Hennigan's mission of beginning to build trust with All-Star center Dwight Howard was met with an unmistakable response in a Wednesday meeting: Howard continues to rule out a future with the Magic, and wants a trade to the Los Angeles Lakers before the start of the season, sources told Yahoo! Sports
"Dwight remained unchanged in his want to be traded," a source with knowledge of the meeting said. "And he has no intention of signing another contract extension with Orlando."

Dwight Howard remains steadfast in his demand to be traded to the Lakers.
Without a deal that would deliver him to the Lakers in the near future, sources said Howard wants Henningan to revisit trade talks with the Brooklyn Nets in January, when center Brook Lopez is eligible to be traded. If deals don't surface with the Lakers or Nets, Howard plans to sign with the Dallas Mavericks as a free agent in the summer of 2013.
While the Lakers and Nets won't have the salary cap space to sign Howard, nor the opportunity to execute a sign-and-trade deal under new CBA rules, the Mavericks will be flush with cap space next summer. Mavs owner Mark Cuban plans to make a run at Howard, and potentially another star player, to join Dirk Nowitzki.
[Related: T'wolves near $20 million deal with Andrei Kirilenko]
For Howard, that threat continues to make it difficult for Orlando to attract trade suitors willing to unload valuable assets for a superstar likely to be a rental player for only several months. Despite the Houston Rockets' determination to trade for Howard and convince him to stay long term, Howard's camp has repeatedly warned Houston owner Les Alexander and GM Daryl Morey that they will lose Howard to rival Dallas in free agency next July, sources said.
Hennigan and Orlando assistant Scott Perry flew to Los Angeles on Wednesday and met with Howard and his representatives for about two hours. When told that the Magic had tried to honor his desire to be moved, Howard probed Hennigan on why the GM hadn't accepted deals that could've sent him to the Nets or Lakers before those teams used valuable trade assets to acquire Joe Johnson and Steve Nash respectively.
Hennigan has insisted that no proposed deal has been satisfactory and the franchise has shown some willingness to take its time to see what offers develop. Nevertheless the rental market for Howard is lean and the Lakers used two first-round picks in the sign-and-trade deal for Nash. The Cleveland Cavaliers and Houston are willing to be third-team trade partners for the Magic and Lakers in deals that would send them All-Star center Andrew Bynum

 

Again, Lakers is not able to add any significant piece to D. Howard offer. And rockets goal is to win the NBA Champ, not only beating up the Jazz or the Mavs.

 

What a dummy if true.

He's mad at Orlando for not taking Brook Lopez and being happy with it?

Tired of this, star players think they run the league.

 

Interesting.

While you can't base everything off stats, I definitely feel they are closer overall than what many make them out to be.

For those saying "Why would you make the Lakers BETTER, and for years to come?"... Would it really make them THAT much better? What are the odds we can beat them NOW, as we're currently constructed? What are the odds, depending on who Morey gives up, that we'd beat them with Bynum (and them with Howard?). I'm not sure the odds are all that different. Besides, it's not like we're on OKC's level and we're trying to make moves to ensure we're able to beat the Heat.

Gasol, Nash and Kobe are all on the down side of their career. Even with Dwight being there, they have about a two year window to do something.

Bynum is also two years younger.

He's definitely had some freak injuries. While I do repect the doctor who came on the radio podcast's opinion, I know the guy just played injury free in the most compact NBA season in history, plus played 38 minutes a night in the playoffs and over 40 the last three games.

What Jay is trying to say is that Morey isn't worried about "making the Lakers better" - as this is demonstrated by participating in sending Paul to them while he would have got Gasol.

He was more concerned with attempting to improve his team - adding Gasol, then signing Nene and re-signing Chuck.

If both Dwight (back) and Bynum (knees) pass physicals and are given "clean bills of health" by the doctors, there's not near as much difference in them as some might think.

And without a guarantee to re-sign, combined with BOTH of their injury history, Morey isn't going to overpay for either. If he can't have either at the right price, he'll move on, roll with what we now have and wait for the next possible opportunity.

Bynum averaged over THREE BLOCKS and eleven rebounds a game in the playoffs. He's no slouch defensively. He also committed only 1.3 turnovers per game.

I feel Morey is definitely after Howard as compared to Bynum, but as Feigen has written, he's open to Bynum as well - both at only the "right price", however.

 

Now that i thought about it more...maybe we should go after Howard...who care if he doesn't want to be here....he have NO CHOICE LOL!! He's literally stuck man lol. And when you're stuck....you will stay and will play great ball!!

Look, LA is not, i repeat NOT going to get Howard without our help. We can say screwed them! And when Howard sign and leave for Dallas, he's getting 30mil+ less...no player want to do that...plus I imagine the Dallas ain't that good to begin with next year by getting rid of Jason Kidd and Terry. And Howard can't sign with NETS and Lakers because those teams are over the cap and doesn't have the $$.

With him stuck in Houston for ONE YEAR...he's going to force to play here and might change his mind after honeymooning with Linsanity and the craziness and popularity the Asian market bring. But all i am saying is....TIME change and people change all the time. The Dwight Howard today will probably not the same as the Dwight Howard next year. I mean look at Chris Webber joining the Kings and doesn't want to be there and FORCED to be there only to realize what a great place to be......

 

A rivalry is a fan based concept ...it doesn't freakin matter ... I give up,this is going nowhere ...

... if a 3 way with the lakers goes down,let me know how you feel when gimp kneed bynum is getting owned by howard,as they knock us out of the playoffs year after year.

 

But then why the threat to sign with Dallas in free agency? I mean Dirk will be like 37 next year and his supporting cast is so-so. Not sure Dwight makes them a top contender, good enough to beat the Heat/Thunder etc?

If one thing is obvious to any player, Houston will do ANYTHING to get better and land superstar talent to WIN. That is saying a lot more than many other teams.

The reason there has been so much turnover is because we are constantly searching for an all star top 10 player. If we HAD that player, things would become stable and I guarantee Les and Morey will pretty much let you handpick your support cast. We won't sit on our butts doing nothing. And there are some promising players (possible all star in Lin, D-Mo, Lamb?) to boot.

 

I'm confused as to what you are teaching me here?

Per that link....it's saying Bynum is young and people sleep on him, but they shoudnt.

The poster I replied to asked was it worth it to trade for DH and I said no.

Now unless I'm reading your Howard v. Bynum link wrong......what exactly am I supposed to learn here, again?

 

I don't like the stance his camp is taking and the leaks they're sending out either.

Not at all! As a proud Rocket fan over almost 40 years, it makes me sick and the emotions and pride start pulling at me and want to move on from this punk.

But, you're not about to change those in the "sign him no matter what" camp just because of what his camp is leaking.

They are scare tactics BECAUSE THEY KNOW he will likely NOT be able to walk away from THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS.

It's easy to let emotions get involved and say "f--- him, let's move on", but Morey will stay level headed and he knows there is still a good chance he will be able to re-sign him, based on the alternatives he'll have as well as what he feels he, the organization and city will be able to do where convincing him to stay is concerned. (remember, there's no history of bad blood here like there is in Orlando)

 

haha that's how I read it too. It basically says Bynum is almost as good as Dwight and Cry baby Howard isn't worth the hassle. In conclusion, we go after Bynum.

Thats how I read it.