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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ScriboErgoSum, Feb 20, 2009.

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We can dominate the eastern teams. All we have to do is get over the Laker hump

It will be epic

#1301 Crush, Apr 15, 2009

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ibm said:

can this year be our lucky year? if we indeed are #2 seed heading into the playoffs, we possibly have a relatively easy path to the west finals.
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I really feel like this could shape up to be a very special year. My dream bracket is:
1) Lakers
2) Rockets
3) Nuggets
4) Blazers
5) Spurs
6) Hornets
7) Mavs
8) Jazz

That could easily happen with the Rockets and Blazers winning.

We should go to the WCF in that bracket. We're 3-1 against the Nuggets and Hornets. We would also be 3-1 against the Mavs if we beat them tomorrow. We would also have home court. I think we could even take down the Nuggets without home court if we were the #3 seed.

Who knows. Maybe the Jazz or Blazers could knock the Lakers out and open a really clear path to a title. If not, they can at least beat them up and leave them bruised for a showdown in the WCF.

#1302 ScriboErgoSum, Apr 15, 2009
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saleem said:

The loss of Manu and a semi-healthy Duncan could make things easier for the Mavs. They won't give us any room tomorrow,we will have to fight from start to finish and play smart if we are to win.
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From what I see in the SA/GS game yesterday, Duncan's condition is not as bad as most people think. He got 16/13 within 22 minutes, still very efficient.

I agree that Dallas may not tank, but I just don't believe they would fight all out to avoid Rockets (and face the Spurs) in the first round.

#1303 Jerry, Apr 15, 2009
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ScriboErgoSum said:

I really feel like this could shape up to be a very special year. My dream bracket is:
1) Lakers
2) Rockets
3) Nuggets
4) Blazers
5) Spurs
6) Hornets
7) Mavs
8) Jazz

That could easily happen with the Rockets and Blazers winning.

We should go to the WCF in that bracket. We're 3-1 against the Nuggets and Hornets. We would also be 3-1 against the Mavs if we beat them tomorrow. We would also have home court. I think we could even take down the Nuggets without home court if we were the #3 seed.

Who knows. Maybe the Jazz or Blazers could knock the Lakers out and open a really clear path to a title. If not, they can at least beat them up and leave them bruised for a showdown in the WCF.
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that's a little too good to be true, although not impossible. but the wcf path is very clear if we win tomorrow. yes, we can beat the denver team without the hca.

if we do get there and face the lakers, i hope all the rockets just treated as a once-in-a-lifetime kinda opportunity. in a way, it's virtually like the finals. though the odds are not on our side, but who knows what's gonna happen if we gain a little momentum at a right time.

#1304 ibm, Apr 15, 2009
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Jerry said:

From what I see in the SA/GS game yesterday, Duncan's condition is not as bad as most people think. He got 16/13 within 22 minutes, still very efficient.

I agree that Dallas may not tank, but I just don't believe they would fight all out to avoid Rockets (and face the Spurs) in the first round.
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The Rockets have a lot more riding on that game now that the Jazz are locked into #8. A Mav win maybe gets them #6 and a showdown with the Spurs. A loss definitely puts them at #7 against the Rockets or Nuggets. They probably don't want to see the Nuggets, who swept them this year. The Mavs actually played the Spurs pretty well and split the season series.

Still the Rockets are playing for home court and possibly the #2 seed. A loss could see them drop to #5. They should have a ton more motivation to win that game.

#1305 ScriboErgoSum, Apr 15, 2009
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ibm said:

that's a little too good to be true, although not impossible. but the wcf path is very clear if we win tomorrow. yes, we can beat the denver team without the hca.

if we do get there and face the lakers, i hope all the rockets just treated as a once-in-a-lifetime kinda opportunity. in a way, it's virtually like the finals. though the odds are not on our side, but who knows what's gonna happen if we gain a little momentum at a right time.
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You just never know. I've seen some crazy stuff happen over the years, and some pretty underdog teams (Heat, Cavs) win conference finals. You have to be in it to win it. I still wouldn't put money on us getting past the WCF, but if we get there it's at least possible.

#1306 ScriboErgoSum, Apr 15, 2009
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I'm going to say it again. How big was that win in San Antonio that was won with 2 game winning layups by Scola? Just look back at what the Rockets were doing back then. We were already kind of on a roll, having beaten Denver, Hornets and Mavs on the road. But that win changed everything. Suddenly we had a realistic shot at the division title.

#1307 agentkirb87, Apr 15, 2009

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Ugh, I would rather face New Orleans than Dallas. Dallas can be dangerous when they heat up and I would loathe them having two series over us.

#1308 larsv8, Apr 15, 2009
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the best team for us to play is portland but in no way is that worth falling into the 4/5 seed and the lakers bracket. new orleans and dallas are washes as far as talent and danger level but with the home court we should be favored to win against either team and I expect us to do just that.

Our very obvious best scenario is to win tomorrow and hope denver loses and play whoever is #7. this will give us homecourt in at least the first 2 rounds.

#1309 BigM, Apr 15, 2009
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Dallas dont scare me.

Dirk, Kidd and Terry, and occasionally Howard might get 15 pts or something.

What happened to all their depth??

I'd love to draw them rd 1, lets smash them tomorrow though.

#1310 aussie rocket, Apr 15, 2009
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Western Conference seeds

1. LOS ANGELES LAKERS
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. San Antonio
6. New Orleans
7. Dallas
8. Utah
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ScriboErgoSum said:

I really feel like this could shape up to be a very special year. My dream bracket is:
1) Lakers
2) Rockets
3) Nuggets
4) Blazers
5) Spurs
6) Hornets
7) Mavs
8) Jazz

That could easily happen with the Rockets and Blazers winning.

We should go to the WCF in that bracket. We're 3-1 against the Nuggets and Hornets. We would also be 3-1 against the Mavs if we beat them tomorrow. We would also have home court. I think we could even take down the Nuggets without home court if we were the #3 seed.

Who knows. Maybe the Jazz or Blazers could knock the Lakers out and open a really clear path to a title. If not, they can at least beat them up and leave them bruised for a showdown in the WCF.
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lol..me and u

ScriboErgoSum said:

I really feel like this could shape up to be a very special year. My dream bracket is:
1) Lakers
2) Rockets
3) Nuggets
4) Blazers
5) Spurs
6) Hornets
7) Mavs
8) Jazz

That could easily happen with the Rockets and Blazers winning.

We should go to the WCF in that bracket. We're 3-1 against the Nuggets and Hornets. We would also be 3-1 against the Mavs if we beat them tomorrow. We would also have home court. I think we could even take down the Nuggets without home court if we were the #3 seed.

Who knows. Maybe the Jazz or Blazers could knock the Lakers out and open a really clear path to a title. If not, they can at least beat them up and leave them bruised for a showdown in the WCF.
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haha..we both want dallas in the first round.

i just think i can't get over the 04-05 series till we beat them in a series also.

can't believe today is the last day of the regular season!

#1311 ndnguy85, Apr 15, 2009
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This is whats most likely:

Lakers beat Utah, Houston beats Dallas, San Antonio beats New Orleans, Portland beats Denver

1. LA Lakers
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. San Antonio
6. New Orleans
7. Dallas
8. Utah
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#1312 W22_STREAK, Apr 15, 2009
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Rockets Travel to Dallas for Enormous Showdown
I’m glad to be done with all of this tanking discussion. The Rockets travel to Dallas for a huge showdown with the Mavs. If we get the W, we win the Southwest and are at least the #3 seed. If we lose, we could fall to #5 and would need help to even have homecourt. The stakes are tremendously high, and the Rockets should be treating this like a Game 7. I think we will bring our best effort and take them down. This is the biggest regular season game I can remember for the Rockets, and I am certainly looking forward to the action. I don’t know how I’ll pass the time tomorrow before the game tips off.

With a win @Mavs
AND a Nugget loss - Rockets are #2, Southwest champ, and face #7 Mavs
AND a Nugget win - Rockets are #3, Southwest champ, and face #6 Hornets

With a loss @Mavs
AND a Spur loss AND a Blazer loss - Rockets are #3, Southwest champ, and face #6 Hornets
AND a Spur loss AND a Blazer win – Rockets are #4, Southwest champ, and face #5 Spurs
AND a Spur win AND a Blazer loss - Rockets are #4 and face #5 Blazers
AND a Spur win AND a Blazer win - Rockets are #5 and face #4 Blazers
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Isn't this crazy? One game to go and we can still face any of the 4 teams in the 1st round with or without home court.

#1313 rage, Apr 15, 2009

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mag said:

Lakers beat Utah. So, we won't be playing Utah anymore this season.
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Here's to hoping we do play them in the WCF.

#1314 Jimes, Apr 15, 2009
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ScriboErgoSum said:

I really feel like this could shape up to be a very special year. My dream bracket is:
1) Lakers
2) Rockets
3) Nuggets
4) Blazers
5) Spurs
6) Hornets
7) Mavs
8) Jazz

That could easily happen with the Rockets and Blazers winning.

We should go to the WCF in that bracket. We're 3-1 against the Nuggets and Hornets. We would also be 3-1 against the Mavs if we beat them tomorrow. We would also have home court. I think we could even take down the Nuggets without home court if we were the #3 seed.

Who knows. Maybe the Jazz or Blazers could knock the Lakers out and open a really clear path to a title. If not, they can at least beat them up and leave them bruised for a showdown in the WCF.
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You are right on the money with everything in this post! Great analysis.

#1315 ringin08, Apr 15, 2009
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BigM said:

the best team for us to play is portland but in no way is that worth falling into the 4/5 seed and the lakers bracket.
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We've played very well vs Portland this season, but the Blazers are on fire right now. 9-1 in their last 10. The good news is that Houston is that 1 loss.

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ScriboErgoSum said:

Rockets Travel to Dallas for Enormous Showdown
I’m glad to be done with all of this tanking discussion. The Rockets travel to Dallas for a huge showdown with the Mavs. If we get the W, we win the Southwest and are at least the #3 seed. If we lose, we could fall to #5 and would need help to even have homecourt. The stakes are tremendously high, and the Rockets should be treating this like a Game 7. I think we will bring our best effort and take them down. This is the biggest regular season game I can remember for the Rockets, and I am certainly looking forward to the action. I don’t know how I’ll pass the time tomorrow before the game tips off.

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Man Scrib, I've appreciated all your posts. I moved to Dallas three months ago and this has been my main lifeline to Rox chatter. I'm going to the game tonight and can't wait. I got tix about a month ago thinking there might be a lot on the line with this game, but it played out even better than I thought. I will be cheering loud and proud!!

#1317 rhinomft, Apr 15, 2009
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Man Scrib, I've appreciated all your posts. I moved to Dallas three months ago and this has been my main lifeline to Rox chatter. I'm going to the game tonight and can't wait. I got tix about a month ago thinking there might be a lot on the line with this game, but it played out even better than I thought. I will be cheering loud and proud!!
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Cool, another Dallas Rockets fan! You should keep your eyes peeled for game viewings with other Rockets fans up here in DOLLass.

I'll be at the game tonight too. Section 315, row E. I'll be in head to toe Rox gear. Where you sitting?

#1318 LAYGO, Apr 15, 2009

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Remember all the discussion about tiebreakers last year? This year is almost a replay of last year.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=144705&page=25&pp=20

#1319 Robert, Apr 15, 2009
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This year's playoff seeding is even crazier than last year. Teams 2-8 are pretty much in the same tier, which is a tier below the Lakers, Cavs, Celtics.

All I care is that we do not NOT land the 4th or 5th seed. I do not want to see the Lakers in the 2nd round. IMO, I wish the Lakers get banged up by the Jazz only to play the Blazers which has the chance, and there's always a chance that BRoy can upset Kobe&Co. If not, by the time we DO and if we do, we can face an exhausted, weary Laker team. Rox can still lose to a tired Laker team but at least we still have an off-chance of beating them.

And then we play Cavs in the finals, which is my dream setting. LeBron is easier to contain than Kobe. I really think the Lakers is a harder opponent than the Cavs.

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