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Magic just said one of them had to go! Now it becomes national...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by waihh, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. tcadriel

    tcadriel Member

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    Now that Magic had the balls to say what some of us have been saying for a long time maybe the offers for Tracie should start pour in, right? IMO we wouldn't get a star player for Tracie and I'm fine with that. Bring a couple of players that can score 12-18pts on a nightly basis and surround them around Yao, that would make this team much better, Addition by subtraction, except your not just subtracting your adding to team chemistry and maybe two scorers to spread around the wealth. Yao and Tracie have none, it's been several years now and we still talk about heart. Tracie kills the flow of the offense and the Rockets look better with Yao the focus of this team. Tracie can't play without the ball, he needs to have the ball in his hands to be productive. If the ball is moving like it's suppose to Tracie is standing around the 3pt line looking lost, if Tracie gets the ball everyone else is unsure what he's gonna do. When we need a momentum change Tracie will start jacking up 3's shooting us out of any rhythm.

    How do we know we didn't offer a Tracie/Kobe trade and the Lakers just didn't laugh at us? IMO there's not many teams willing to CHANCE a Tracie trade. But if I was in Rockets Management I'd be on the phone. I know there will be some saying good thing your not on the management team, but "Magic" is one of the best, should we listen to you over him? IMO Magic was being nice and could have really called Tracie "Fools Gold" Mcgrady out, as it looked like he wanted too but held back. It's Time!!!
     
  2. YallMean

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    Did you all hear Tmac said

    1. We are not soft
    2. No panic button yet

    Basically polar opposite of what Yao has been saying. Our two superstars are not on the same page. That worries me.
     
  3. ROXTXIA

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    Not so sure about that.

    Now, if I were the Lakers, sure, I'd say "no" to trading Kobe for TMac. But let's not assume TMac's value is so low. This is hypothetical, but if you offered TMac (and, say, MJames) to Phoenix for Marion and Barbosa, they might bite (and we'd hand them a championship). If you said, Hell with it, and called Miami, and asked for their expiring contracts, Daquan Cook and a first rounder, then found a team like Utah looking to unburden Kirilenko and maybe grab a solid second player....

    TMac is no Alpha Male. Put him with an Alpha Male, and he'd flourish. Knee and ankle and back and MIND would all suddenly clear up.

    All I'm saying is, it could be done. Don't know if Morey will admit we ain't going nowhere as is.
     
  4. dreammvp

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    after last nights performance there should be no doubt who we should trade out of the two (if we trade one...i say we give it a nother month before trading anybody to see if htey can gel)...Yao was money...leading his team..TMAC was where he likes to be...in street clothes, collecting a paycheck...
     
  5. BroadwayBelm

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    I don't see the point of people discounting former HOF's from sharing their opinions, just because the majority of them havent been good GM's.


    Trading tmac would be a snap decision and the wrong one, but seriously they have too look into the fact that without Tmac, last night they played as a team and passed the ball better then they ever have this year.
     
  6. denniscd

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    magic kenny smith and charles may be funny, but they dont know how to run a team...magic was a horrible coach, but hes a great business man...trading mcgrady will not help us...motivate him coaches...get him to buy into the system
     
  7. johnrox

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    YOFs is full force today, one moral victory, 50 more to go
     
  8. durvasa

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    More importantly, they have to look at the fact that they are 4-129,841 in games T-Mac has missed.

    This group depends on having a superior playmaker on the perimeter to be effective night in and night out offensively. Good luck trading T-Mac for such a player.
     
  9. Arvid

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    Only if it's "you" who are the reason that our team is soft and "you" are the button we should press...

     
  10. hermbob

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    Yeah, but he also told 1560 AM that he agreed with Yao in his "soft" assessment and was glad that he said it. Yet another inconsistent statement/action from him. So I wonder what it is that he really things...
     
  11. apocclass

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    OMG will you people STOP talking about how the offense flows better without t-mac and that yao and t-mac have no chemisty ?

    when ill people stop ignoring the fact that yao and t-mac are surrounded by POOR offensive players...

    alston, hayes, and battier ? is it any wonder the offense struggles ?

    once again... YAO AND T-MAC ARE NOT THE PROBLEM....

    the teams record has been great when yao and t-mac are on the floor together, aside from this year (but even this year started out 6-1). that tells me the struggles this year have far more to do with Adelman coming in with a system that doesnt fit the roster more "t-mac stagnating the offense" which is ridiculous.
     
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    i was thinking the same thing.....like his intensity level, tracy's statments are inconsistent......
     
  13. SlamIt

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    I'd agree with Magic. The real problem is the locker room chemistry and team mentality. Let's face it, two potential leaders equals no leader. TMac will never be really happy being a 2nd in the team, and seen from the recent experience, that definately hinders Yao speaking out when team is struggling. I am now firmly convinced that one of them needs to go, not because they can not play together, but because neither of them will become a true leader for the team if they stay together.
     
  14. apocclass

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    celtics.... 3 leaders.......... 20-3 record... what a BS theory
     
  15. tmac&Yao

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    Yeah,t-mac have lost his confidence and heart now.
     
  16. SlamIt

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    Remember how excited we have been for these years, and where are we now? Boston has not achieved nothing yet, so please do not say like they give a proof -of-concept. For god's sake, they have not even played any western elite teams yet, and was just beaten by Detroit on their home court. You can say as much BS as you like, but please wait when they win a championship.
     
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    It's not like what I said isn't proven..yes t mac makes me bang my head sometimes, but so does yao!I think the Yao makes the offense stagnet with another superstar on his team like t mac, but I don't think yao can carry a team because he is so easy to defend late in the game.I guess if we had van gundy I would choose yao over t mac, but since rick is taking him away form the basket I think t mac should stay instead.
     
  18. apocclass

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    "two potential leaders" equaling no leader is the dumbest thing ive ever heard in my life........

    once again, its not yao or t-mac, its the guys surrounding them... when will people stop ignoring the fact that rafer alston, chuck hayes, and shane battier are STARTERS on this team ? look what other stars on top teams are working with.....
     
  19. Sooner423

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    How are you going to improve the players surrounding Yao or T-Mac without trading one of them? I doubt GM's are knocking down the door for guys like Rafer Alston, Chuck Hayes and Shane Battier. Maybe if JVG got a GM job.....
     
  20. SlamIt

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    Just because your little mind is locked in a small box and your eyes are blind does not mean the truth will go away...I don't blamed you!
     

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