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Magic just said one of them had to go! Now it becomes national...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by waihh, Dec 20, 2007.

  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    Some of you haters might like to diss Magic, probably the best PG of all time.
    But one thing Magic knows is leadership, that guy was a leader. He can see that Tmac is not a leader. Is Tmac making the game fun for the other guys? is he showing toughness? Is he making the other players better around him?

    Thanks Magic!
     
  2. apocclass

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    lets also keep in mind denver is a bad defensive team, when talking about how great the offense looks without t-mac :rolleyes:
     
  3. Rockets4279

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    I agree, the playmaker we got is at the wrong position and the playmaker so to speak is the one who is supposed to push the tempo for easier baskets not slow the game down. Andre Miller anybody ??
     
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    You can't really say t mac is clogging up the offense..when yao was out and t mac was taking over we were winning.I think Yao is a hard worker, younger, but he has his flaws also even when he is scoring.....I think we should keep T mad and add another superstar..I think that would make us a more uptempo team.We would be weak on the inside, but theses days to many teams are stong on the insdie anyway.


    whats the record when Yao is out and t mac is playing?


    what is the record when t mac is out and yao is playing?thats your answer right there?

    I think yao is doing everything he can even leading by example to try to push us over the top, but we win more when it's just t mac.
     
  5. WarioMillie

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    Sounds crazy, but it's the whole "addition by subtraction" concept. Sometimes a little better chemistry, even if it comes at the expense of a lot less talent, is worth the sacrifice. And to your point of record when one or the other is out (first of all it's not great when they're both in as it is), remember that when one or the other is out all of a sudden, there will be an initial curve for the rest of the team before full potential is realized (don't forget what jvg did last year when each was out).

    And can you really dispute magic's assertion that the offense had a smoother flow tonight? Did it not seem like yao, through all his clutch buckets, boards, kick-outs, FT's, even court management and directing traffic etc kind of said "ok this is my time- come on guys ride me lets do it"- and as poorly as the rest of them shot they seemed to buy into his leadership and play better, even if they came up short? It's like they knew who to look to as the alpha.

    I can't argue with him. Addition by subtraction- and remember it wouldn't even be pure subtraction assuming we get anything for him, much less something at least in the ballpark of his value.
     
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    That is the right answer. I m wondering when top management could hear our voice or they are busy with counting the money? :confused:
     
  7. Rockets4279

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    The team clicks when your making baskets which makes playing defense so much easier. But when you have the playmaker slowing the game down into halfcourt sets after good defense then it makes making shots harder. So in reality the playmaker is the one who pushes the tempo for easier transition baskets. See what im saying ?? Your best defense is a better offense. The motor who runs the team is the one who should be pushing the tempo. T-Mac is the one who is supposed to score in transition and play without the ball. Jason Kidd makes the game so much easier for Vince Carter and RJ. If we had a guy similar to Jason Kidd and McGrady actually looked for his shot without the ball we would be murding teams. Scoring in transition would be so much easier. Take the ball away from T-Mac the game speeds up just like tonight when Alston had 10 assist.
     
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    GOD,trade TMAC as quickly as you can!
     
  9. BroadwayBelm

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  10. apocclass

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    we dont have the players to play any kind of transition basketball. chuck hayes cant even catch a pass let alone finish on the break. shane battier in transition ? LOL
    yao is slow....rafer sucks..... look we just need to get back to playing good D and knocking down open shots.....of course come playoff time that wont be enough against championship contenders because we just dont have the talent, but we can make it interesting at least....i hope.
     
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    I still say if were going to trade either one of the two you trade yao!Nomatter who we get to play with yao we are going to struggle imo and it's not really his fault....look at what we did last year without yao playing...it's already proven that we can win without yao and it's also proven that we can't win without t mac.
     
  12. Rockets4279

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    The Fix.

    Yao/Scola/Mutombo
    Gasol/Landry
    Maggette/Korver
    Mike Miller/Navarro
    Andre Miller/Alston/Brooks

    We have the pieces to make a team like this they need to just get on the phone. Gasol trade rumors not long ago was circulating. Andre wants out of Philly. Maggette dont mind leaving L.A.

    This team will score 110 points everynight.

    You got the attackers, inside game, finishers in transition, shooters in transition. This is all the team needs.

    Its not like both Miller's cant rebound. Its not like Maggette cant play without the ball or rebound. Those 3 are 3 of the better rebounders at their position. Andre would average 10 assist everynight. They all can run. Gasol can beat his man off the dribble at the high-post.
     
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    Have you seen this just hit mute.


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  14. StarLight's wAY

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    fans need to understand that tis a long season, miracle can strike at anytime. :cool:

    keep the faith, my babies!
     
  15. newswell

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    Did he think trade can really give Rox Champ?
     
  16. ReD_1

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    Great players do not make great GM's or coaches for that matter.
    Charles Barkley said this million times,why do you not believe him?
     
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  18. ikarus

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    God, it is so pathetic that probably no team wants TMac. it is so bad that we CANNOT trade him and his 20million contract.
     
  19. ikarus

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    Who knows? But we all believe this team will never win any champ. why not have a try. The worst we can get is as lousy as it is now.
     
  20. T_Man

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    Bingo!!!!!

    Seems like everyone is looking for someone to blame... When we were 6-1 we were the best freakin team in the league and now that things are going bad... All the rats are jumping ship or trying to cause a mutiny.
     

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